Baseball Toaster was unplugged on February 4, 2009.
July 31, 2007 was destined to become an historic date in baseball history. Barry Bonds was poised to tie the all-time career home run record. Alex Rodriguez was about to become the 22nd member of the 500-home run club. It would be just the fourth time in baseball history that two men hit their 500th in the same year (Frank Thomas did it earlier this season). Finally, Tom Glavine would reach the 300th win milestone, becoming the 23rd man to do so and would simultaneously win ten games for the 18th time, a feat only eight other pitchers have done (see below).
It's three days later and what have got? Nothin'! Bubkis! Nada. Zip. Zilch. The big goose egg.
Even the reinvigorated Bud Selig has given up on Bonds. The Yankees have hit fifteen homers in three games but none by A-Rod. Glavine came the closest to reaching his milestones, but the Mets bullpen lost his lead and then the game in the thirteenth. Maybe Bonds and A-Rod are waiting for Glavine's next start (Sunday) to try the trifecta again.
Anyway, the day of the big non-event I heard Rick Stutcliffe (or was it John KrukI think all of the ESPN non-personalities share one brain, albeit a reptilian one) opining that Glavine when he reaches 300 wins will become the last man to ever do so. This is the same speech that we have heard each time Clemens, Maddux, et al reached three hundred. Heck, they probably said it when Cy Young hit 300 wins, and he had 211 left in the tank.
I thought I would take a look at the previous 300-game winners to see whether any current players are on track for 300. Some may be right on pace with the legends and we don't even know it.
The only problem is that even with Glavine thrown in the nineteenth-century guys predominate. Even Glavine lags behind when we use the overall average for all 300-game winners. Here are the only players that match the pace for future 300-game winners at their age (through 2006). Two have already accomplished the feat:
Pitcher | W to 2006 | L to 2006 | Age | Yrs | First | Last | W by Age | W by Age Since 1900 | Min W by Age |
Roger Clemens | 348 | 178 | 43 | 23 | 1984 | 2006 | 340.00 | 321.78 | 257 |
Greg Maddux | 333 | 203 | 40 | 22 | 1986 | 2006 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
C.C. Sabathia | 81 | 56 | 25 | 6 | 2001 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Felix Hernandez | 16 | 18 | 20 | 2 | 2005 | 2006 | 14.71 | 10.25 | 0 |
Ignoring the players who started pitching in the nineteenth century, you get an even dozen on track for 300 wins:
Pitcher | W to 2006 | L to 2006 | Age | Yrs | First | Last | W by Age | W by Age Since 1900 | Min W by Age |
Roger Clemens | 348 | 178 | 43 | 23 | 1984 | 2006 | 340.00 | 321.78 | 257 |
Greg Maddux | 333 | 203 | 40 | 22 | 1986 | 2006 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
C.C. Sabathia | 81 | 56 | 25 | 6 | 2001 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Felix Hernandez | 16 | 18 | 20 | 2 | 2005 | 2006 | 14.71 | 10.25 | 0 |
Mark Buehrle | 97 | 66 | 27 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 118.65 | 94.63 | 6 |
Jon Garland | 82 | 68 | 26 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 93.13 | 73.19 | 2 |
Carlos Zambrano | 64 | 42 | 25 | 6 | 2001 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Dontrelle Willis | 58 | 39 | 24 | 4 | 2003 | 2006 | 66.17 | 54.25 | 4 |
Jake Peavy | 57 | 45 | 25 | 5 | 2002 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Jeremy Bonderman | 45 | 53 | 23 | 4 | 2003 | 2006 | 46.82 | 39.64 | 3 |
Matt Cain | 15 | 13 | 21 | 2 | 2005 | 2006 | 18.42 | 10.90 | 0 |
Tom Glavine | 290 | 191 | 40 | 20 | 1987 | 2006 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
That seems like quite enough to rebuke Mssr. Sutcliffe, but I'll go one better. What if we look at those players that exceed the minimum wins that any 300-game winner amassed at the same age?
Well, then 259 including the likes of Dustin Nippert, who had one win by age 25. I list here just the ones with 100 or more wins (through 2006):
Pitcher | W to 2006 | L to 2006 | Age | Yrs | First | Last | W by Age | W by Age Since 1900 | Min W by Age |
Roger Clemens | 348 | 178 | 43 | 23 | 1984 | 2006 | 340.00 | 321.78 | 257 |
Greg Maddux | 333 | 203 | 40 | 22 | 1986 | 2006 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
C.C. Sabathia | 81 | 56 | 25 | 6 | 2001 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Felix Hernandez | 16 | 18 | 20 | 2 | 2005 | 2006 | 14.71 | 10.25 | 0 |
Mark Buehrle | 97 | 66 | 27 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 118.65 | 94.63 | 6 |
Jon Garland | 82 | 68 | 26 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 93.13 | 73.19 | 2 |
Carlos Zambrano | 64 | 42 | 25 | 6 | 2001 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Dontrelle Willis | 58 | 39 | 24 | 4 | 2003 | 2006 | 66.17 | 54.25 | 4 |
Jake Peavy | 57 | 45 | 25 | 5 | 2002 | 2006 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
Jeremy Bonderman | 45 | 53 | 23 | 4 | 2003 | 2006 | 46.82 | 39.64 | 3 |
Matt Cain | 15 | 13 | 21 | 2 | 2005 | 2006 | 18.42 | 10.90 | 0 |
Tom Glavine | 290 | 191 | 40 | 20 | 1987 | 2006 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
Randy Johnson | 280 | 147 | 42 | 21 | 1988 | 2006 | 333.60 | 315.44 | 240 |
Mike Mussina | 239 | 134 | 37 | 16 | 1991 | 2006 | 271.25 | 262.33 | 162 |
Curt Schilling | 207 | 138 | 39 | 20 | 1988 | 2006 | 300.88 | 291.87 | 197 |
Pedro Martinez | 206 | 92 | 34 | 15 | 1992 | 2006 | 245.19 | 221.38 | 110 |
Andy Pettitte | 186 | 104 | 34 | 12 | 1995 | 2006 | 245.19 | 221.38 | 110 |
Brad Radke | 148 | 139 | 33 | 12 | 1995 | 2006 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
Aaron Sele | 145 | 110 | 36 | 14 | 1993 | 2006 | 268.21 | 247.00 | 145 |
Bartolo Colon | 140 | 87 | 33 | 11 | 1997 | 2006 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
Steve Trachsel | 134 | 143 | 35 | 15 | 1993 | 2006 | 262.95 | 238.50 | 130 |
Jason Schmidt | 127 | 90 | 33 | 14 | 1995 | 2006 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
Esteban Loaiza | 123 | 108 | 34 | 15 | 1995 | 2006 | 245.19 | 221.38 | 110 |
Livan Hernandez | 123 | 117 | 31 | 13 | 1996 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Kevin Millwood | 123 | 87 | 31 | 10 | 1997 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Tim Hudson | 119 | 60 | 30 | 8 | 1999 | 2006 | 185.74 | 152.31 | 54 |
Freddy Garcia | 116 | 71 | 31 | 9 | 1999 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Chan Ho Park | 113 | 87 | 33 | 14 | 1994 | 2006 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
Matt Morris | 111 | 77 | 31 | 9 | 1997 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Russ Ortiz | 108 | 79 | 32 | 10 | 1998 | 2006 | 216.59 | 187.50 | 81 |
Jeff Suppan | 106 | 101 | 31 | 14 | 1995 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Mark Mulder | 103 | 57 | 28 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 140.87 | 113.19 | 17 |
Barry Zito | 102 | 63 | 28 | 7 | 2000 | 2006 | 140.87 | 113.19 | 17 |
Chris Carpenter | 100 | 68 | 31 | 9 | 1997 | 2006 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
Javier Vazquez | 100 | 105 | 29 | 9 | 1998 | 2006 | 164.52 | 132.25 | 31 |
Derek Lowe | 100 | 82 | 33 | 11 | 1997 | 2006 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
My point is that if you take a look around, there are plenty of candidates for 300 wins. Most probably very few of them will reach the magical number, but they seem as likely as most of the 300-game winners at various stages in their careers.
For the record, average by age for all 300-game winners (plus Glavine):
Age | Tot W | Num Players | W by Age | W by Age Since 1900 | Min W by Age |
18 | 4 | 1 | 4.00 | 0.00 | 4 |
19 | 5 | 4 | 1.25 | 1.25 | 0 |
20 | 103 | 7 | 14.71 | 10.25 | 0 |
21 | 221 | 12 | 18.42 | 10.90 | 0 |
22 | 466 | 14 | 33.29 | 25.30 | 9 |
23 | 796 | 17 | 46.82 | 39.64 | 3 |
24 | 1191 | 18 | 66.17 | 54.25 | 4 |
25 | 1580 | 22 | 71.82 | 56.73 | 0 |
26 | 2142 | 23 | 93.13 | 73.19 | 2 |
27 | 2729 | 23 | 118.65 | 94.63 | 6 |
28 | 3240 | 23 | 140.87 | 113.19 | 17 |
29 | 3784 | 23 | 164.52 | 132.25 | 31 |
30 | 4272 | 23 | 185.74 | 152.31 | 54 |
31 | 4698 | 23 | 204.26 | 169.56 | 66 |
32 | 4765 | 22 | 216.59 | 187.50 | 81 |
33 | 4475 | 20 | 223.75 | 205.63 | 97 |
34 | 5149 | 21 | 245.19 | 221.38 | 110 |
35 | 5522 | 21 | 262.95 | 238.50 | 130 |
36 | 5096 | 19 | 268.21 | 247.00 | 145 |
37 | 4340 | 16 | 271.25 | 262.33 | 162 |
38 | 4572 | 16 | 285.75 | 276.60 | 178 |
39 | 4814 | 16 | 300.88 | 291.87 | 197 |
40 | 4616 | 15 | 307.73 | 297.07 | 218 |
41 | 4154 | 13 | 319.54 | 306.33 | 233 |
42 | 3336 | 10 | 333.60 | 315.44 | 240 |
43 | 3400 | 10 | 340.00 | 321.78 | 257 |
44 | 1770 | 5 | 354.00 | 314.75 | 268 |
45 | 603 | 2 | 301.50 | 301.50 | 284 |
46 | 624 | 2 | 312.00 | 312.00 | 300 |
47 | 311 | 1 | 311.00 | 311.00 | 311 |
48 | 318 | 1 | 318.00 | 318.00 | 318 |
And here are the pitchers with at least 18 years of ten or more wins:
Pitcher | #Yrs 10+ W |
Don Sutton | 21 |
Nolan Ryan | 20 |
Phil Niekro | 19 |
Roger Clemens | 19 |
Greg Maddux | 19 |
Cy Young | 19 |
Walter Johnson | 18 |
Steve Carlton | 18 |
First Randy Johnson still has a real shot at it if he can return from this last surgery.
Next I would say Pedro & Pettitte still have outside shots at it. Pedro at 206 wins age 35 & Pettitte at 193 age 35. If they play to 42 with good health, that would be 7 years. An average of 14 wins a season would get it done, this is close to what Maddux & Glavine did in this age range. Health of Pedro & Pettitte makes this unlikely, but I don't feel impossible.
My next 10 are further away, 7 made your list also.
Zito 110 wins, 244 starts 29 age
Buehrle 105 wins, 250 starts, 28 age
Garland 90 wins, 213 starts, 27 age
Sabathia 94 wins, 208 starts, 26 age
Mulder 103 wins, 199 starts, 29 age
Zambrano 78 wins, 169 starts, 26 age
Hudson 130 wins, 270 starts, 31 age
The 3 additional I added are:
Santana 89 wins, 164 starts, 28 age
Lackey 73 wins, 171 starts, 28 age
Halladay 106 wins, 211 starts, 30 age
There are other names that I just think it is still too early to put in a list, Peavy, Willis, Bonderman & F Hernandez.
I don't know about your statement that a few will make it, but I would think of the 13 I mentioned at least 1 will make it and maybe a couple more. I don't think 300 wins is an unattainable number.
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