Baseball Toaster was unplugged on February 4, 2009.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work ... I want to achieve it through not dying" (Woody Allen)
Yesterday, my friend Murray and I were emailing each other regarding the Jim Rice/Hall of Fame post I made they other day. I had a thought about Rice and his ilk, thus:
There are a number of players like Rice (Parker, Murphy, Dawson, Allen, Mattingly, etc.) that are going to be interesting litmus tests for the writers and especially the Vets' Committee. I'm not sure if I would put any of them in, but given the dearth of players from the '70s and '80s in the Hall (I have to re-check this but I remember there being something like half as many players as the other eras) someone else from those decades will have to go in. And Joe Morgan only has some many ex-Red teammates left. After he fast-tracks Ed Armbrister, they will have to look elsewhere. I just wonder who'll make the cut. We may not know for some time.
Well, the issue stuck in my craw, and we all know how painful that is. So I did a little research:
By the way, I checked out the HoF data I was discussing earlier... Attached is a spreadsheet with the # of active HoFers (MLB players only), # of total ballplayers, and the % of HoFers per year. I also graphed it in the spreadsheet. I would post it, but I don't know how to embed graphs. Anyway, note the decline in the number of HoFers since around 1973 and in the % of HoFers since around 1968. There are a bunch of players who are not yet eligible (Henderson, Bonds, Clemens, etc.) who will boost some of these numbers but it's still pretty low. And it starts to decline a good 10 years before any of those guys even started. (E.g. only 2.87 of all players active in 1977, not coincidentally an expansion year, are in the Hall of Fame.)They're going to have to rectify this by letting in a few borderline [players]. We're talking about around 10+ guys to get the numbers up to the previous eras. Because of expansion to get the percentages up to the previous eras (~4-6%), we are probably 20+ since the early '70s. They may not want to "cheapen" it and allow for expansion, but they at least have to get the number of HoFers in the same neighborhood.
Also, note the damage done by letting in so many players from the late '20s and the early '30s. There are about twice the players by percentage in the Hall than normal (4-6%) and that's not counting the Negro Leaguers hat have been admitted. The 1900 spike is due to the 1899 contraction and then the advent of the major-league AL in 1901. The dip in the teens is due to the FL and then WWI. The same goes for the dip in the '40s and WWII. The dip in the 1880s is due to the AA, UA, and PL.
Here's the chart to which I referred. Unfortunately, I can't post the graphs, so I'll do the next best thing. The average percentage of Hall of Fame players in the chart is 5.34%. Let's call a year in the average range if the percentage is between 4 and 8%. I have underlined the years below 4%, and italicized the ones over 8%:
Year # HoFers # players % in Hall 1871 1 115 0.87% 1872 2 144 1.39% 1873 2 122 1.64% 1874 2 120 1.67% 1875 3 190 1.58% 1876 2 121 1.65% 1877 2 92 2.17% 1878 4 77 5.19% 1879 6 119 5.04% 1880 11 127 8.66% 1881 11 120 9.17% 1882 13 229 5.68% 1883 12 257 4.67% 1884 14 635 2.20% 1885 15 322 4.66% 1886 15 326 4.60% 1887 15 316 4.75% 1888 19 331 5.74% 1889 20 322 6.21% 1890 24 508 4.72% 1891 26 358 7.26% 1892 26 266 9.77% 1893 24 259 9.27% 1894 23 260 8.85% 1895 22 281 7.83% 1896 22 270 8.15% 1897 24 263 9.13% 1898 22 298 7.38% 1899 24 308 7.79% 1900 25 188 13.30% 1901 27 369 7.32% 1902 26 389 6.68% 1903 28 368 7.61% 1904 31 363 8.54% 1905 30 388 7.73% 1906 31 412 7.52% 1907 30 413 7.26% 1908 31 434 7.14% 1909 31 500 6.20% 1910 29 497 5.84% 1911 25 529 4.73% 1912 29 578 5.02% 1913 29 560 5.18% 1914 32 730 4.38% 1915 35 719 4.87% 1916 35 516 6.78% 1917 33 480 6.88% 1918 27 471 5.73% 1919 28 466 6.01% 1920 30 483 6.21% 1921 33 478 6.90% 1922 38 480 7.92% 1923 40 494 8.10% 1924 47 509 9.23% 1925 50 508 9.84% 1926 52 488 10.66% 1927 52 491 10.59% 1928 53 490 10.82% 1929 53 497 10.66% 1930 53 477 11.11% 1931 48 483 9.94% 1932 52 482 10.79% 1933 51 448 11.38% 1934 47 478 9.83% 1935 44 472 9.32% 1936 41 469 8.74% 1937 41 487 8.42% 1938 36 486 7.41% 1939 36 517 6.96% 1940 33 500 6.60% 1941 36 531 6.78% 1942 31 500 6.20% 1943 20 508 3.94% 1944 16 525 3.05% 1945 16 536 2.99% 1946 27 601 4.49% 1947 32 521 6.14% 1948 29 514 5.64% 1949 28 511 5.48% 1950 28 504 5.56% 1951 29 522 5.56% 1952 29 535 5.42% 1953 30 516 5.81% 1954 31 517 6.00% 1955 34 571 5.95% 1956 36 525 6.86% 1957 32 538 5.95% 1958 31 557 5.57% 1959 32 546 5.86% 1960 31 554 5.60% 1961 32 598 5.35% 1962 34 669 5.08% 1963 34 668 5.09% 1964 31 664 4.67% 1965 37 672 5.51% 1966 34 677 5.02% 1967 36 684 5.26% 1968 35 644 5.43% 1969 36 807 4.46% 1970 34 813 4.18% 1971 35 801 4.37% 1972 34 789 4.31% 1973 31 661 4.69% 1974 27 681 3.96% 1975 26 670 3.88% 1976 23 664 3.46% 1977 20 698 2.87% 1978 21 692 3.03% 1979 21 685 3.07% 1980 20 709 2.82% 1981 19 705 2.70% 1982 19 720 2.64% 1983 17 735 2.31% 1984 13 721 1.80% 1985 12 706 1.70% 1986 11 726 1.52% 1987 10 747 1.34% 1988 9 717 1.26% 1989 6 734 0.82% 1990 6 742 0.81% 1991 6 755 0.79% 1992 6 752 0.80% 1993 6 820 0.73% 1994 3 722 0.42% 1995 3 822 0.36% 1996 1 832 0.12% 1997 0 908 0.00% 1998 0 967 0.00% 1999 0 960 0.00% 2000 0 1132 0.00% 2001 0 1220 0.00%
All of the time periods that fall outside the norm can be explained by some phenomenon or another in the sport except for two, the highs of 1923 to 1937 and the lows since 1974. (Aside from the salient issues I raise above: The lows of 1871-77 are a product of a still developing major league system. As the AA folds after 1891, the percentage skyrockets.) As I already said, the 1923-'37 aberration is due to the excesses of past Veterans' Committees.
Part of the explanation for the historic lows since 1974 can be attributed to players who either a) are not yet eligible or b) are eligible but have not served their time in purgatory but will be inducted eventually (e.g., Gary Carter).
Here are all of the Hall of Famers who retired after 1936, the first year of inductees, with their last major-league year, the year inducted, and the number of years that they had to wait to be inducted:
FirstName LastName Inducted Last Year Diff LOU GEHRIG 1939 1939 0 ROGERS HORNSBY 1942 1937 5 CARL HUBBELL 1947 1943 4 FRANKIE FRISCH 1947 1937 10 LEFTY GROVE 1947 1941 6 MICKEY COCHRANE 1947 1937 10 PIE TRAYNOR 1948 1937 11 CHARLIE GEHRINGER 1949 1942 7 JIMMIE FOXX 1951 1945 6 MEL OTT 1951 1947 4 PAUL WANER 1952 1945 7 AL SIMMONS 1953 1944 9 DIZZY DEAN 1953 1947 6 BILL DICKEY 1954 1946 8 BILL TERRY 1954 1936 18 GABBY HARTNETT 1955 1941 14 JOE DIMAGGIO 1955 1951 4 TED LYONS 1955 1946 9 HANK GREENBERG 1956 1947 9 JOE CRONIN 1956 1945 11 BOB FELLER 1962 1956 6 JACKIE ROBINSON 1962 1956 6 HEINIE MANUSH 1964 1939 25 LUKE APPLING 1964 1950 14 TED WILLIAMS 1966 1960 6 LLOYD WANER 1967 1945 22 RED RUFFING 1967 1947 20 GOOSE GOSLIN 1968 1938 30 JOE MEDWICK 1968 1948 20 KIKI CUYLER 1968 1938 30 ROY CAMPANELLA 1969 1957 12 STAN MUSIAL 1969 1963 6 WAITE HOYT 1969 1938 31 JESSE HAINES 1970 1937 33 LOU BOUDREAU 1970 1952 18 CHICK HAFEY 1971 1937 34 SATCHEL PAIGE 1971 1965 6 EARLY WYNN 1972 1963 9 LEFTY GOMEZ 1972 1943 29 SANDY KOUFAX 1972 1966 6 YOGI BERRA 1972 1965 7 MONTE IRVIN 1973 1956 17 ROBERTO CLEMENTE 1973 1972 1 WARREN SPAHN 1973 1965 8 JIM BOTTOMLEY 1974 1937 37 MICKEY MANTLE 1974 1968 6 WHITEY FORD 1974 1967 7 BILLY HERMAN 1975 1947 28 EARL AVERILL 1975 1941 34 RALPH KINER 1975 1955 20 BOB LEMON 1976 1958 18 FREDDY LINDSTROM 1976 1936 40 ROBIN ROBERTS 1976 1966 10 ERNIE BANKS 1977 1971 6 EDDIE MATHEWS 1978 1968 10 WILLIE MAYS 1979 1973 6 AL KALINE 1980 1974 6 CHUCK KLEIN 1980 1944 36 DUKE SNIDER 1980 1964 16 BOB GIBSON 1981 1975 6 JOHNNY MIZE 1981 1953 28 FRANK ROBINSON 1982 1976 6 HANK AARON 1982 1976 6 TRAVIS JACKSON 1982 1936 46 BROOKS ROBINSON 1983 1977 6 GEORGE KELL 1983 1957 26 JUAN MARICHAL 1983 1975 8 DON DRYSDALE 1984 1969 15 HARMON KILLEBREW 1984 1975 9 LUIS APARICIO 1984 1973 11 PEE WEE REESE 1984 1958 26 RICK FERRELL 1984 1947 37 ARKY VAUGHAN 1985 1948 37 ENOS SLAUGHTER 1985 1959 26 HOYT WILHELM 1985 1972 13 LOU BROCK 1985 1979 6 BOBBY DOERR 1986 1951 35 ERNIE LOMBARDI 1986 1947 39 WILLIE MCCOVEY 1986 1980 6 BILLY WILLIAMS 1987 1976 11 CATFISH HUNTER 1987 1976 11 WILLIE STARGELL 1988 1982 6 CARL YASTRZEMSKI 1989 1983 6 JOHNNY BENCH 1989 1983 6 RED SCHOENDIENST 1989 1963 26 JIM PALMER 1990 1972 18 JOE MORGAN 1990 1984 6 FERGIE JENKINS 1991 1983 8 GAYLORD PERRY 1991 1981 10 ROD CAREW 1991 1985 6 TONY LAZZERI 1991 1939 52 HAL NEWHOUSER 1992 1954 38 ROLLIE FINGERS 1992 1980 12 TOM SEAVER 1992 1983 9 REGGIE JACKSON 1993 1987 6 PHIL RIZZUTO 1994 1956 38 STEVE CARLTON 1994 1986 8 MIKE SCHMIDT 1995 1989 6 RICHIE ASHBURN 1995 1962 33 JIM BUNNING 1996 1971 25 NELLIE FOX 1997 1965 32 PHIL NIEKRO 1997 1987 10 DON SUTTON 1998 1988 10 LARRY DOBY 1998 1959 39 GEORGE BRETT 1999 1993 6 NOLAN RYAN 1999 1988 11 ORLANDO CEPEDA 1999 1974 25 ROBIN YOUNT 1999 1993 6 CARLTON FISK 2000 1993 7 TONY PEREZ 2000 1986 14 DAVE WINFIELD 2001 1995 6 KIRBY PUCKETT 2001 1995 6 OZZIE SMITH 2002 1996 6 Average 15.44248 Median 10 Max 52 Min 0
Note that the average is about 15 years. The median is 10 years, meaning that there are number of outliers who had to wait 30 or more years-20 of the 113 who qualified. So there may be a few from the early '70s who will still get elected even though they have waited over decades.
It is also partially due to the rapid expansion in the last 40 years. There were over twice as many major league ballplayers at the end of the century than in the pre-expansion era. From 1916 to 1960 there were just 16 major league teams. The average number of major-leaguers in that period is 506, almost 32 per club per year.
Do the voters somehow have a preconceived notion as far as the Hall-of-Fame standards based on pre-expansion numbers? I created a new table based on the numbers above taken from 1969, the year that the downward trend starts, until 2001. I have added columns for the projected number of Hofers based on 4% (the low end of our average), 5.34% (the average percentage form the table), and 8% (the high end of our average) of the active players:
Year HoF # players % in Hall 4% HoF Diff 5.34% HoF Diff 8% HoF Diff 1969 36 807 4.46% 32 -4 43 7 65 29 1970 34 813 4.18% 33 -1 43 9 65 31 1971 35 801 4.37% 32 -3 43 8 64 29 1972 34 789 4.31% 32 -2 42 8 63 29 1973 31 661 4.69% 26 -5 35 4 53 22 1974 27 681 3.96% 27 0 36 9 54 27 1975 26 670 3.88% 27 1 36 10 54 28 1976 23 664 3.46% 27 4 35 12 53 30 1977 20 698 2.87% 28 8 37 17 56 36 1978 21 692 3.03% 28 7 37 16 55 34 1979 21 685 3.07% 27 6 37 16 55 34 1980 20 709 2.82% 28 8 38 18 57 37 1981 19 705 2.70% 28 9 38 19 56 37 1982 19 720 2.64% 29 10 38 19 58 39 1983 17 735 2.31% 29 12 39 22 59 42 1984 13 721 1.80% 29 16 39 26 58 45 1985 12 706 1.70% 28 16 38 26 56 44 1986 11 726 1.52% 29 18 39 28 58 47 1987 10 747 1.34% 30 20 40 30 60 50 1988 9 717 1.26% 29 20 38 29 57 48 1989 6 734 0.82% 29 23 39 33 59 53 1990 6 742 0.81% 30 24 40 34 59 53 1991 6 755 0.79% 30 24 40 34 60 54 1992 6 752 0.80% 30 24 40 34 60 54 1993 6 820 0.73% 33 27 44 38 66 60 1994 3 722 0.42% 29 26 39 36 58 55 1995 3 822 0.36% 33 30 44 41 66 63 1996 1 832 0.12% 33 32 44 43 67 66 1997 0 908 0.00% 36 36 48 48 73 73 1998 0 967 0.00% 39 39 52 52 77 77 1999 0 960 0.00% 38 38 51 51 77 77 2000 0 1132 0.00% 45 45 60 60 91 91 2001 0 1220 0.00% 49 49 65 65 98 98
Given that this is largely a moving target given the previous issue, it's difficult to say with any degree of certainty that there has been a change in attitudes. That said, the numbers do look low. Look at 1977, it's 8 players short of the minimum 4% level. Given that it's 25 years ago and that the average waiting period is about 15 years, a young player in 1977 or three could still get inducted (Eddie Murray for one). However, that still seems pretty low.
Let's try something else. Let's re-do the table above based on the average number of pre-expansion players (506):
Year HoF # players % in Hall 4% HoF Diff 5.34% HoF Diff 8% HoF Diff 1969 36 506 7.11% 20 -16 27 -9 40 4 1970 34 506 6.72% 20 -14 27 -7 40 6 1971 35 506 6.92% 20 -15 27 -8 40 5 1972 34 506 6.72% 20 -14 27 -7 40 6 1973 31 506 6.13% 20 -11 27 -4 40 9 1974 27 506 5.34% 20 -7 27 0 40 13 1975 26 506 5.14% 20 -6 27 1 40 14 1976 23 506 4.55% 20 -3 27 4 40 17 1977 20 506 3.95% 20 0 27 7 40 20 1978 21 506 4.15% 20 -1 27 6 40 19 1979 21 506 4.15% 20 -1 27 6 40 19 1980 20 506 3.95% 20 0 27 7 40 20 1981 19 506 3.75% 20 1 27 8 40 21 1982 19 506 3.75% 20 1 27 8 40 21 1983 17 506 3.36% 20 3 27 10 40 23 1984 13 506 2.57% 20 7 27 14 40 27 1985 12 506 2.37% 20 8 27 15 40 28 1986 11 506 2.17% 20 9 27 16 40 29 1987 10 506 1.98% 20 10 27 17 40 30 1988 9 506 1.78% 20 11 27 18 40 31 1989 6 506 1.19% 20 14 27 21 40 34 1990 6 506 1.19% 20 14 27 21 40 34 1991 6 506 1.19% 20 14 27 21 40 34 1992 6 506 1.19% 20 14 27 21 40 34 1993 6 506 1.19% 20 14 27 21 40 34 1994 3 506 0.59% 20 17 27 24 40 37 1995 3 506 0.59% 20 17 27 24 40 37 1996 1 506 0.20% 20 19 27 26 40 39 1997 0 506 0.00% 20 20 27 27 40 40 1998 0 506 0.00% 20 20 27 27 40 40 1999 0 506 0.00% 20 20 27 27 40 40 2000 0 506 0.00% 20 20 27 27 40 40 2001 0 506 0.00% 20 20 27 27 40 40
It appears that from 1969-'73 some allowance was made for the influx of players due to expansion. There have been more Hall-of-Famers inducted from that period than the pre-expansion average. Given that the late '70s have a handful of players like Murray (e.g. Henderson and Raines) who may boost its numbers, it seems that this trend will continue into the players from the 1980s. My one question is whether or not this trend will continue with the continued expansion (1977, '93, and '98). That answer we will not know for some time.
My last thought is that there are perhaps two other forces that will contribute to the levels of Hall of Famers from the present/recent era. The first is the offensive explosion since the mid-1990s. More players will be achieving impressive offensive numbers than in the past, and they will get a lot of attention. If the Thirties are any indication, more Hall of Famers than normal will be elected from the current period. Of course, that is assuming that the Veterans' Committee will play the same sort of role as in the past and that sabermetrical means to normalize these numbers will not be utilized in the assessment of these players. Given that the VC has been recently reconstituted and could be again, there's no way to know how they will act in the future.
The other force is a retarding one and it has to do with the phenomenon that sports economist Andrew Zimbalist calls "talent compression". Zimbalist maintained that certain performance levels are more difficult to achieve today than in the past because the level of play has evened out. There are more players nearer to an average major-leaguer and fewer poor players today. This causes milestones like batting .400 and certain batting records to be beyond today's players grasps-there just aren't enough poor pitchers to beat up on. Of course, Zimbalist wrote about talent compression before the recent offensive explosion. The home run record that stood for 37 years (and was a 162-game adjusted over the previous record that stood for 34) was broken twice in three years and was bested by more than 20%.
I am not entirely sold on Zimbalist theory. I am not sure if it just appears that way given a number of historic trends. I would want to verify it with some sort of comparison over time of the standard deviation of key (normalized) statistics. Still, it may not be convincing given that expansion increases the number of ballplayers. Whenever the number of subjects in a data set increases, the standard deviation decreases (the key problem with Rob Neyer's Dynasties book).
There are number of forces at work here. We won't know for sure which ones will be the strongest until all of the players from the current/recent eras are inducted. Given the history of the Hall, that may not be complete for maybe half a century. So I'll post something on this on New Year's Eve 2052. It should be an interesting 50 years.
Comment status: comments have been closed. Baseball Toaster is now out of business.