Baseball Toaster was unplugged on February 4, 2009.
David Cone made it official today: He is retiring after a 17-year career with eight different clubs (well, if you include his two stints with KC, Toronto, and NY Mets) explaining, "This is the end, for sure." The 40-year-old's spot is being taken by 420year-old John Franco who returns after an almost two-year absence. So it goes for the Mets.
Cone is a very intelligent and well-spoken man. He was a money pitcher who recorded a perfect game, won a Cy Young, and was on 5 World Series champions (with a 2-0 record and 2.12 ERA). He was a 20-game winner twice, 10 years apart, and won 194 in total with a .606 winning percentage. Cone appeared in five All-Star games and led his league in strikeouts twice. He had a very solid career but not a Hall-of-Fame type one, right?
That was one of my first thoughts when he retired, "Oh, well. He'll be remembered but won't go in the Hall." That's kind of an obnoxious thing to think on the day a guy retires, but I have to report that I thought it. However, as I was reviewing his stats on Baseball-Reference.com, I noticed that he is very close to qualifying by the Bill James Hall tests:
Black Ink: Pitching - 19 (Average HOFer ~ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching - 165 (Average HOFer ~ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching - 39.0 (Average HOFer ~ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching - 97.0 (Likely HOFer > 100)
He is low in Black Ink (number of times leading a league in any stat), but then again so are most modern players because of the greater number of players today. He's pretty close in the other three categories. He also has two Hall-of-Famers in his similar pitchers list plus a number of near HoF types:
Similar PitchersDwight Gooden (947) Tommy Bridges (914) Kevin Brown (911) Bob Welch (902) Dave Stieb (902) Orel Hershiser (897) Dazzy Vance (890) * Bob Lemon (888) * Dave McNally (887) Jack Stivetts (885) * = Hall of Famer
That got me to thinking, what if I constructed a list of similar pitchers to determine where he falls in major-league history. I selected a list of pitchers who won at least 175 games but no more than 225, had a winning percentage .600 or over, and had an ERA under 3.50. Here's the list:
Name | W | L | ERA | PCT |
---|---|---|---|---|
Allie Reynolds | 182 | 107 | 3.30 | .630 |
Art Nehf | 184 | 120 | 3.20 | .605 |
Bob Caruthers | 218 | 99 | 2.83 | .688 |
Bob Lemon | 207 | 128 | 3.23 | .618 |
Carl Mays | 207 | 126 | 2.92 | .622 |
Chief Bender | 212 | 127 | 2.46 | .625 |
Dave McNally | 184 | 119 | 3.24 | .607 |
Deacon Phillippe | 189 | 109 | 2.59 | .634 |
Ed Reulbach | 182 | 106 | 2.28 | .632 |
Jack Chesbro | 198 | 132 | 2.68 | .600 |
Jesse Tannehill | 197 | 116 | 2.79 | .629 |
Larry Corcoran | 177 | 89 | 2.36 | .665 |
Lefty Gomez | 189 | 102 | 3.34 | .649 |
Lon Warneke | 192 | 121 | 3.18 | .613 |
Randy Johnson | 224 | 106 | 3.06 | .679 |
Sam Leever | 194 | 100 | 2.47 | .660 |
Stan Coveleski | 215 | 142 | 2.89 | .602 |
Urban Shocker | 187 | 117 | 3.17 | .615 |
Name | W | L | ERA | PCT |
---|---|---|---|---|
Allie Reynolds | 182 | 107 | 3.30 | .630 |
Art Nehf | 184 | 120 | 3.20 | .605 |
Bob Caruthers | 218 | 99 | 2.83 | .688 |
Bob Lemon | 207 | 128 | 3.23 | .618 |
Carl Mays | 207 | 126 | 2.92 | .622 |
Chief Bender | 212 | 127 | 2.46 | .625 |
Dave McNally | 184 | 119 | 3.24 | .607 |
Deacon Phillippe | 189 | 109 | 2.59 | .634 |
Ed Reulbach | 182 | 106 | 2.28 | .632 |
Jack Chesbro | 198 | 132 | 2.68 | .600 |
Jesse Tannehill | 197 | 116 | 2.79 | .629 |
Larry Corcoran | 177 | 89 | 2.36 | .665 |
Lefty Gomez | 189 | 102 | 3.34 | .649 |
Lon Warneke | 192 | 121 | 3.18 | .613 |
Randy Johnson | 224 | 106 | 3.06 | .679 |
Sam Leever | 194 | 100 | 2.47 | .660 |
Stan Coveleski | 215 | 142 | 2.89 | .602 |
Urban Shocker | 187 | 117 | 3.17 | .615 |
Comment status: comments have been closed. Baseball Toaster is now out of business.