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The Biggest Loser II
2005-01-28 19:49
by Mike Carminati

There was more activity on SABR-L regarding Pete Rose being on the most winning teams.

In any event, what is amazing is that Pete Rose came within just a few games, probably less than 10 wins (3500+ games played) from having a winning record for 24 straight years! Of course, someone could spin it that Pete was also one of the biggest losers, given that he probably lost 1500 games.

Re. Rose, his teams did have the most winning seasons recorded for a player all time, but he is just two seasons ahead of the likes of Doyle Alexander, Rick Dempsey, and Juan Pizzaro. Here are the ones with at least 18 winning seasons:

SeasonsRecord
Name#Tm YrsWinningLosing.500WL%Win SeasonsTm PCT
Pete Rose2521402201178184.00%.553
Cap Anson2720611544112175.93%.579
Willie Mays2320301978165986.96%.544
Eddie Collins2519512169159878.00%.576
Rick Dempsey2519512154181578.00%.543
Dennis Martinez2419322098165783.33%.559
Carlton Fisk2419502027179079.17%.531
Jim O'Rourke231940135591782.61%.596
Doyle Alexander2319401952170582.61%.534
Babe Ruth2219301957136986.36%.588
Enos Slaughter2219301914147186.36%.565
Rickey Henderson29181102382219562.07%.520
Steve Carlton2718812249206168.52%.522
Don Sutton2518702146184272.00%.538
Ty Cobb2418601949168675.00%.536
Tony Perez2318502011164678.26%.550
Juan Pizarro2218311885164084.09%.535
Dixie Walker2018201753131290.00%.572
Yogi Berra1918101786116894.74%.605
Jim Palmer1918101756124294.74%.586

As for Rose's teams losing 1500 games, they actually lost 281 more. Here are the most team wins and then most team losses for a player's career:

SeasonsRecord
Name#Tm YrsWinningLosing.500WL%Win SeasonsTm PCT
Rickey Henderson29181102382219562.07%.520
Jim Kaat28151032359208358.93%.531
Tommy John28171012341212862.50%.524
Steve Carlton2718812249206168.52%.522
Pete Rose2521402201178184.00%.553
Harold Baines27161102195205059.26%.517
Nolan Ryan27151202171214355.56%.503
Eddie Collins2519512169159878.00%.576
Hoyt Wilhelm2617902161195365.38%.525
Rick Dempsey2519512154181578.00%.543
Don Sutton2518702146184272.00%.538
Bobo Newsom29131602131231244.83%.480
Dennis Martinez2419322098165783.33%.559
Charlie Hough26161002093200361.54%.511
Jerry Reuss2516812083190366.00%.523
Jesse Orosco26131302082200550.00%.509
Waite Hoyt2516902077170764.00%.549
Dennis Eckersley2515912065185162.00%.527
Bill Buckner2514922059192060.00%.517
SeasonsRecord
Name#Tm YrsWinningLosing.500WL%Win SeasonsTm PCT
Bobo Newsom29131602131231244.83%.480
Deacon McGuire31102012003225933.87%.470
Rickey Henderson29181102382219562.07%.520
Nolan Ryan27151202171214355.56%.503
Tommy John28171012341212862.50%.524
Phil Niekro26131212037210451.92%.492
Jim Kaat28151032359208358.93%.531
Steve Carlton2718812249206168.52%.522
Harold Baines27161102195205059.26%.517
Rusty Staub2481601776204033.33%.465
Mike Morgan25111311941202146.00%.490
Elmer Valo2371601542200630.43%.435
Jesse Orosco26131302082200550.00%.509
Charlie Hough26161002093200361.54%.511
Danny Darwin25111401911199544.00%.489
Hoyt Wilhelm2617902161195365.38%.525
Joe Niekro2516812054193566.00%.515
Bobby Wallace25121301706193048.00%.469
Gaylord Perry25131202058192752.00%.516

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