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Brett Myers pitched seven shutout innings tonight as the Phils topped the Nats, 3-0 with three runs in the ninth. Unfortunately, Myers again got a no-decision, his third in five starts, against a 1-1 record. He did, however, lower his ERA to 1.35, he recorded seven strikeouts in those seven innings, and he allowed only four hits.
This comes after a devastating season in which Myers went 11-11 with a 5.52 ERA, 21 percent worse than the park-adjusted league average. Myers' career ERA was 4.84 (14% worse than average) entering the season though he had a 29-25 career mark.
Now, I am doubtful that Myers can go the entire season with a sub-2.00 ERA, but it is encouraging that he has lowered his ERA by over 6 earned runs from his April 2004 totals (7.36). His ERA so far in 2005 is 4.17 earned runs lower than it was in 2004. He also has raised his strikeouts per nine innings by 3.25 to over nine.
Can a pitcher lower his ERA by over four runs in just a season? Has anyone ever done that, especially at age 24, Myers' age? And what does it mean for his career?
Well, no one has ever come close to lowering his ERA by four runs or even three and one-half. Here are the pitchers who lowered their eras the most in one season Min. 150 innings in each year):
Name | Yr1 | ERA | Yr2 | ERA | Diff | Age |
George Haddock | 1890 | 5.76 | 1891 | 2.49 | -3.27 | 24 |
Dick Ellsworth | 1962 | 5.09 | 1963 | 2.11 | -2.98 | 23 |
Kid Gleason | 1889 | 5.58 | 1890 | 2.63 | -2.94 | 23 |
Pol Perritt | 1913 | 5.25 | 1914 | 2.36 | -2.89 | 21 |
Roger Wolff | 1944 | 4.99 | 1945 | 2.12 | -2.87 | 34 |
Esteban Loaiza | 2002 | 5.71 | 2003 | 2.90 | -2.81 | 31 |
Amos Rusie | 1889 | 5.32 | 1890 | 2.56 | -2.76 | 19 |
Bert Blyleven | 1988 | 5.43 | 1989 | 2.73 | -2.70 | 38 |
Darryl Kile | 1999 | 6.61 | 2000 | 3.91 | -2.70 | 31 |
Red Ehret | 1895 | 6.02 | 1896 | 3.42 | -2.61 | 27 |
Red Donahue | 1897 | 6.13 | 1898 | 3.55 | -2.58 | 25 |
Dan Griner | 1913 | 5.08 | 1914 | 2.51 | -2.57 | 26 |
Ray Benge | 1930 | 5.70 | 1931 | 3.17 | -2.53 | 29 |
John Denny | 1982 | 4.87 | 1983 | 2.37 | -2.50 | 30 |
Rube Marquard | 1915 | 4.04 | 1916 | 1.58 | -2.46 | 29 |
Greg Maddux | 1987 | 5.61 | 1988 | 3.18 | -2.43 | 22 |
Joe Mays | 2000 | 5.56 | 2001 | 3.16 | -2.40 | 25 |
Jack Knott | 1936 | 7.29 | 1937 | 4.89 | -2.40 | 30 |
Bill Bernhard | 1901 | 4.52 | 1902 | 2.15 | -2.37 | 31 |
Hal Newhouser | 1941 | 4.79 | 1942 | 2.45 | -2.34 | 21 |
It seems like there are a large number of nineteenth century guys and some from the war years showing up in there. What if we limit it to the expansion era:
Expansion Era | Yr1 | ERA | Yr2 | ERA | Diff | Age |
Dick Ellsworth | 1962 | 5.09 | 1963 | 2.11 | -2.98 | 23 |
Esteban Loaiza | 2002 | 5.71 | 2003 | 2.90 | -2.81 | 31 |
Bert Blyleven | 1988 | 5.43 | 1989 | 2.73 | -2.70 | 38 |
Darryl Kile | 1999 | 6.61 | 2000 | 3.91 | -2.70 | 31 |
John Denny | 1982 | 4.87 | 1983 | 2.37 | -2.50 | 30 |
Greg Maddux | 1987 | 5.61 | 1988 | 3.18 | -2.43 | 22 |
Joe Mays | 2000 | 5.56 | 2001 | 3.16 | -2.40 | 25 |
Mike Hampton | 2002 | 6.15 | 2003 | 3.84 | -2.31 | 30 |
Frank Viola | 1983 | 5.49 | 1984 | 3.21 | -2.27 | 24 |
Rick Honeycutt | 1982 | 5.27 | 1983 | 3.03 | -2.24 | 29 |
Marty Pattin | 1969 | 5.62 | 1970 | 3.39 | -2.22 | 27 |
Randy Jones | 1974 | 4.45 | 1975 | 2.24 | -2.21 | 25 |
Chris Carpenter | 2000 | 6.26 | 2001 | 4.09 | -2.17 | 26 |
Bob Knepper | 1987 | 5.27 | 1988 | 3.14 | -2.13 | 34 |
Matt Keough | 1979 | 5.04 | 1980 | 2.92 | -2.13 | 24 |
Bill Hands | 1966 | 4.58 | 1967 | 2.46 | -2.12 | 27 |
Steve Trachsel | 1995 | 5.15 | 1996 | 3.03 | -2.12 | 25 |
Jamie Moyer | 2000 | 5.49 | 2001 | 3.43 | -2.06 | 38 |
Sam McDowell | 1967 | 3.85 | 1968 | 1.81 | -2.04 | 25 |
Vida Blue | 1979 | 5.01 | 1980 | 2.97 | -2.04 | 30 |
Some of those guys are veterans making a comeback (Blyeleven, Loaiza, Denny) and others were younger pitchers coming into their own perhaps like Myers (Rusie, Maddux, Newhouser, all Hall of Famers). What if we limit the results to pitchers who were under 25 in their second year?
Under 25 | Yr1 | ERA | Yr2 | ERA | Diff | Age |
George Haddock | 1890 | 5.76 | 1891 | 2.49 | -3.27 | 24 |
Dick Ellsworth | 1962 | 5.09 | 1963 | 2.11 | -2.98 | 23 |
Kid Gleason | 1889 | 5.58 | 1890 | 2.63 | -2.94 | 23 |
Pol Perritt | 1913 | 5.25 | 1914 | 2.36 | -2.89 | 21 |
Amos Rusie | 1889 | 5.32 | 1890 | 2.56 | -2.76 | 19 |
Greg Maddux | 1987 | 5.61 | 1988 | 3.18 | -2.43 | 22 |
Hal Newhouser | 1941 | 4.79 | 1942 | 2.45 | -2.34 | 21 |
Frank Viola | 1983 | 5.49 | 1984 | 3.21 | -2.27 | 24 |
Red Ehret | 1889 | 4.80 | 1890 | 2.53 | -2.26 | 21 |
Bob Friend | 1954 | 5.07 | 1955 | 2.83 | -2.24 | 24 |
Early Wynn | 1942 | 5.12 | 1943 | 2.91 | -2.21 | 23 |
Silver King | 1887 | 3.78 | 1888 | 1.64 | -2.14 | 20 |
Matt Keough | 1979 | 5.04 | 1980 | 2.92 | -2.13 | 24 |
Ed Seward | 1887 | 4.13 | 1888 | 2.01 | -2.12 | 21 |
Gus Weyhing | 1887 | 4.27 | 1888 | 2.25 | -2.02 | 21 |
Bobby Mathews | 1871 | 5.17 | 1872 | 3.15 | -2.01 | 20 |
Hal Gregg | 1944 | 5.46 | 1945 | 3.47 | -2.00 | 23 |
Adonis Terry | 1887 | 4.02 | 1888 | 2.03 | -1.99 | 23 |
Mark Mulder | 2000 | 5.44 | 2001 | 3.45 | -1.98 | 23 |
Ernie Broglio | 1959 | 4.72 | 1960 | 2.74 | -1.97 | 24 |
But Silver King had a 3.78, high in his day, but is it truly comparable to Myers' 5.52 in 2004? OK, now I think I've got it. What if we look at pitchers under 25, who lowered their ERA by at least a run in a season, and had an ERA of at least 5.00 in the first year? This would be substantially less than the 4 runs that Myers has lowered his ERA by this year, but I'm hedging my bets. I bet Myers' ERA will come nowhere near the current 1.35. Let's say he records a more modest improvement of about one run to end up around the 4.00-4.50 range, not far from his career mark. Who else has done something similar? Here goes:
Name | Yr1 | ERA | Yr2 | ERA | Diff | Age |
George Haddock | 1890 | 5.76 | 1891 | 2.49 | -3.27 | 24 |
Dick Ellsworth | 1962 | 5.09 | 1963 | 2.11 | -2.98 | 23 |
Kid Gleason | 1889 | 5.58 | 1890 | 2.63 | -2.94 | 23 |
Pol Perritt | 1913 | 5.25 | 1914 | 2.36 | -2.89 | 21 |
Amos Rusie | 1889 | 5.32 | 1890 | 2.56 | -2.76 | 19 |
Greg Maddux | 1987 | 5.61 | 1988 | 3.18 | -2.43 | 22 |
Frank Viola | 1983 | 5.49 | 1984 | 3.21 | -2.27 | 24 |
Bob Friend | 1954 | 5.07 | 1955 | 2.83 | -2.24 | 24 |
Early Wynn | 1942 | 5.12 | 1943 | 2.91 | -2.21 | 23 |
Matt Keough | 1979 | 5.04 | 1980 | 2.92 | -2.13 | 24 |
Bobby Mathews | 1871 | 5.17 | 1872 | 3.15 | -2.01 | 20 |
Hal Gregg | 1944 | 5.46 | 1945 | 3.47 | -2.00 | 23 |
Mark Mulder | 2000 | 5.44 | 2001 | 3.45 | -1.98 | 23 |
Herm Wehmeier | 1950 | 5.67 | 1951 | 3.70 | -1.97 | 24 |
Camilo Pascual | 1956 | 5.87 | 1957 | 4.10 | -1.77 | 23 |
Bill Magee | 1897 | 5.39 | 1898 | 4.05 | -1.34 | 23 |
John Healy | 1887 | 5.17 | 1888 | 3.89 | -1.28 | 21 |
Dick Coffman | 1930 | 5.14 | 1931 | 3.88 | -1.26 | 24 |
Jeff Weaver | 1999 | 5.55 | 2000 | 4.32 | -1.23 | 23 |
Jim Britt | 1872 | 5.06 | 1873 | 3.89 | -1.17 | 17 |
Eric Milton | 1998 | 5.64 | 1999 | 4.49 | -1.15 | 23 |
Randy Lerch | 1977 | 5.07 | 1978 | 3.96 | -1.11 | 23 |
Javier Vazquez | 1998 | 6.06 | 1999 | 5.00 | -1.05 | 22 |
So what ends up happening to those pitchers? What do their careers end up looking like? Let's see (data through 2004):
Name | W | L | PCT | IP | ERA |
George Haddock | 95 | 87 | .522 | 1,580.0 | 4.07 |
Dick Ellsworth | 115 | 137 | .456 | 2,155.7 | 3.72 |
Kid Gleason | 138 | 131 | .513 | 2,389.3 | 3.79 |
Pol Perritt | 92 | 78 | .541 | 1,469.7 | 2.89 |
Amos Rusie | 245 | 174 | .585 | 3,769.7 | 3.07 |
Greg Maddux | 305 | 174 | .637 | 4,181.3 | 2.95 |
Frank Viola | 176 | 150 | .540 | 2,836.3 | 3.73 |
Bob Friend | 197 | 230 | .461 | 3,611.0 | 3.58 |
Early Wynn | 300 | 244 | .551 | 4,564.0 | 3.54 |
Matt Keough | 58 | 84 | .408 | 1,190.0 | 4.17 |
Bobby Mathews | 297 | 248 | .545 | 4,956.3 | 2.89 |
Hal Gregg | 40 | 48 | .455 | 827.0 | 4.54 |
Mark Mulder | 81 | 42 | .659 | 1,003.0 | 3.92 |
Herm Wehmeier | 92 | 108 | .460 | 1,803.0 | 4.80 |
Camilo Pascual | 174 | 170 | .506 | 2,930.7 | 3.63 |
Bill Magee | 29 | 51 | .363 | 742.7 | 4.93 |
John Healy | 78 | 136 | .364 | 1,875.0 | 3.84 |
Dick Coffman | 72 | 95 | .431 | 1,460.3 | 4.65 |
Jeff Weaver | 64 | 76 | .457 | 1,172.0 | 4.48 |
Jim Britt | 26 | 64 | .289 | 816.7 | 4.38 |
Eric Milton | 71 | 57 | .555 | 1,188.3 | 4.76 |
Randy Lerch | 60 | 64 | .484 | 1,099.3 | 4.53 |
Javier Vazquez | 78 | 78 | .500 | 1,427.3 | 4.26 |
Total | 2883 | 2726 | .514 | 49,048.7 | 3.69 |
It seems that the guys who just are experiencing a one-year mirage of improvement, wash out of baseball pretty quickly (usually under 1000 innings). But the guys whose improvement was actual growth and maturing, went on to pretty good records.
So which one is Myers? I guess that remains to be seen along with whether his early-season success is a fluke or not. However, he'll probably pitch around 200 innings this year barring injury leaving him at around 650 for his career. That leaves him little over a season to become a washout if the 1000-inning ceiling holds true.
You conclude that when guys in your ultimate data sample have a good year and go onto good careers, then the leap forward signalled development, but was otherwise just a fluke for the rest of them. That's the same thing as saying that when guys who had good careers turned in their first good seasons, it meant they were going to have good careers.
The conclusion that I think you need to draw from the list is, "The careers of guys who fall into the class I've identified in this sample is all over the map, and it doesn't tell us enough to know what to make of a season like the one Myers might put together, but that doesn't disprove the hypothesis." Maybe you want to study it over a two or three year period after the "leap forward" to see whether that tells you something more meaningful.
Myers is one of those pitchers who has vexed me for years in fantasy leagues. He should, by all rights, be better than he has been, but the results aren't there to substantiate the hunch.
I think that they tend to take two divergent paths, towards utter failure (Lerch, Keough, Magee, Britt) or success (Maddux, Wynn, Rusie, Mathews). But it's open to interpretation. Either way, even if Myers continues with his one-year renaissance, it doesn't mean that he's turned his career around.
No, 1893. Here are the years in which the mound changed from "Zoning Out" (https://mikesrants.baseballtoaster.com/archives/006299.html):
Pitcher's Mound
1845: The pitching distance is forty-five feet, marked by 12-foot line.
1865: The pitcher's box appears: 12' x 3' box. Must pitch within box.
1866: The pitcher's box enlarged: 12' x 4'.
1867: The pitcher's box: 6' x 6'.
1868: The pitcher's box: 4' x 6'.
1869: The pitcher's box: 6' x 6'.
1881: The pitching distance: 50'.
1886: The pitcher's box: 4' x 7'.
1887: The pitcher's box: 4' x 5.5'.
1893: The pitching distance: 60'6" (present distance). The pitcher's box replaced by the rubber (12" x 4").
1895: The pitcher's rubber: 24" x 6" (present size).
1904: The height of the pitcher's mound established at no higher than 15".
1950: The height of the pitcher's mound exactly 15".
1968: Pitcher's mound: 10".
So poignant - yet so novel in regard to throwing strikes...he needs to throw and knock off the Greg Maddux cerebral approach...
Would love to know your thoughts on Lieberthal and his talent - or lack thereof of calling a game...
Lastly, this response was going to be one of my "What, no Randy Lerch" but alas, on the list...
I agree: Myers, or more precisely his head, is his own worst enemy. The less he thinks the better.
I can't say that I'm crazy about Lieberthal's gamecalling ability. I can't think of one pitcher he's helped shepherd along. I guess he's competent, more of the Bo Diaz rather than the Bob Boone school.
Who imagined the impression that Randy Lerch would leave on the Philadelphia sports fan's psyche. I have yet to recuperiate from Steve Jeltz, myself.
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