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Jamie Moyer saved the Phils from a what would have been an early-season, cringe-worthy sweep at the hands of the pesky Florida Marlins, and he did it in dramatic fashion, allowing two hits in eight innings.
Moyer now joins a short list of pitchers who have won at least seven games in a season after turning 45. His projected win total of 17 would be the most be any such pitcher:
Player | Yr | Age | W | L | ERA | IP |
Jamie Moyer-proj | 2008 | 45 | 17 | 7 | 4.12 | 198.0 |
Phil Niekro | 1984 | 45 | 16 | 8 | 3.09 | 215.7 |
Phil Niekro | 1985 | 46 | 16 | 12 | 4.09 | 220.0 |
Satchel Paige | 1952 | 45 | 12 | 10 | 3.07 | 138.0 |
Phil Niekro | 1986 | 47 | 11 | 11 | 4.32 | 210.3 |
Jack Quinn | 1929 | 45 | 11 | 9 | 3.97 | 161.0 |
Jack Quinn | 1930 | 46 | 9 | 7 | 4.42 | 89.7 |
Tommy John | 1988 | 45 | 9 | 8 | 4.49 | 176.3 |
Charlie Hough | 1993 | 45 | 9 | 16 | 4.27 | 204.3 |
Phil Niekro | 1987 | 48 | 7 | 13 | 6.30 | 138.7 |
Hoyt Wilhelm | 1969 | 46 | 7 | 7 | 2.19 | 78.0 |
Jamie Moyer | 2008 | 45 | 7 | 3 | 4.12 | 83.0 |
If Moyer does hit that 17-win mark this year, meaning he would garner ten more in 2008, and let's say that he has another 15 wins left in his soft-tossing arm, that would put him at 262 for his career. This begs the improbable question of whether Jamie Moyer is a Hall-of-Fmaer.
Jamie Moyer, a pitcher who did not win 15 wins in any season until he turned 35, how can he be a Hall-of-Famer? Moyer, a pitcher who never struck out more than 158 in a season, how could his face adorn the walls of Cooperstown? To quote Schoolhouse Rocky, how can a zero be a hero?
Moyer will be in very company. Twelve of the twenty eligible pitchers who won at least 250 but no more than 300 games are in the Hall, and Randy Johnson who has 288 and may not make 300 is an extremely good bet. All eligible pitchers with at least 2000 wins are in the Hall and the three who are not in (Maddux, Glavine, and Clemens) are locks at least for their on-field performance (Clemens will have other problems of course).
That's an extremely blunt instrument, but it does indicate that Moyer has a fifty-fifty chance or better of making it should he be able to hold up for another couple of seasons, admittedly not a great bet for an aging pitcher. That's not that bad for a pitcher who took over a decade at the beginning of his career to find himself.
Here are all the 250-299 win pitchers:
Name | First | Last | W | Hall? |
Bobby Mathews | 1871 | 1887 | 297 | N |
Tommy John | 1963 | 1989 | 288 | N |
Randy Johnson | 1988 | 2008 | 288 | Ineligible |
Bert Blyleven | 1970 | 1992 | 287 | N |
Robin Roberts | 1948 | 1966 | 286 | Y |
Fergie Jenkins | 1965 | 1983 | 284 | Y |
Tony Mullane | 1881 | 1894 | 284 | N |
Jim Kaat | 1959 | 1983 | 283 | N |
Red Ruffing | 1924 | 1947 | 273 | Y |
Burleigh Grimes | 1916 | 1934 | 270 | Y |
Jim Palmer | 1965 | 1984 | 268 | Y |
Bob Feller | 1936 | 1956 | 266 | Y |
Eppa Rixey | 1912 | 1933 | 266 | Y |
Jim McCormick | 1878 | 1887 | 265 | N |
Gus Weyhing | 1887 | 1901 | 264 | N |
Ted Lyons | 1923 | 1946 | 260 | Y |
Mike Mussina | 1991 | 2008 | 259 | Ineligible |
Jack Morris | 1977 | 1994 | 254 | N |
Red Faber | 1914 | 1933 | 254 | Y |
Al Spalding | 1871 | 1877 | 253 | Y |
Carl Hubbell | 1928 | 1943 | 253 | Y |
Bob Gibson | 1959 | 1975 | 251 | Y |
Incidentally, Jimmy Rollins is on a pace to set a new record for most stolen bases in a season without being caught. He stole his twelfth yesterday in their 3-0 win, and projects to 38. The current record-holder is Kevin McReynolds with 21 nabs without being caught. Here are the most:
Yr | Player | SB | CS |
2008 | Jimmy Rollins-proj | 38 | 0 |
1988 | Kevin McReynolds | 21 | 0 |
1898 | John Anderson | 20 | 0 |
1994 | Paul Molitor | 20 | 0 |
1899 | Hughie Jennings | 18 | 0 |
1899 | Ossee Schreckengost | 18 | 0 |
1982 | Jimmy Sexton | 16 | 0 |
1989 | Gary Thurman | 16 | 0 |
1984 | Davey Lopes | 15 | 0 |
1994 | Sean Berry | 14 | 0 |
1999 | Terry Shumpert | 14 | 0 |
1902 | Hal O'Hagan | 13 | 0 |
1943 | Leon Culberson | 13 | 0 |
1964 | Tom Tresh | 13 | 0 |
1994 | Lee Tinsley | 13 | 0 |
1994 | Tim Raines | 13 | 0 |
1995 | Rex Hudler | 13 | 0 |
2000 | Carlos Beltran | 13 | 0 |
2000 | Desi Relaford | 13 | 0 |
1871 | Denny Mack | 12 | 0 |
1910 | Art Kruger | 12 | 0 |
1977 | Miguel Dilone | 12 | 0 |
1980 | Fred Lynn | 12 | 0 |
1995 | Paul Molitor | 12 | 0 |
2003 | David Dellucci | 12 | 0 |
2008 | Jimmy Rollins | 12 | 0 |
age 40 and over, moyer has 73 wins. he's 2 wins from tying warren spahn and cy young for 3rd in that category. he should pass those two this year and then trail only quinn with 96 wins and niekro with 121. it's interesting to note that quinn was one of the last legal spitballers and niekro threw the knuckleball, while moyer still gets it done with his "blazing" 75mph fastball.
a couple of other interesting tidbits about moyer (from baseball-reference.com): moyer holds the record for longest time between rbi's, 16 years. he also holds the record for the longest time between doubles, 19 years. and he's the only pitcher to ever go 20 years between wins against a team, beating the braves on 5.23.87 and then not again until 5.25.07.
he's not a hall-of-famer yet. but let's not sell the guy short. he might have 5 or 6 more good years left in him.
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