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Passing the Baton?
2006-09-05 21:11
by Mike Carminati

Cole Hamels and Roger Clemens battled to a 3-2, tenth-inning pitcher's duel won eventually by Rick White over Dave Borkowski. Clemens lasted just five and left with a strained groin with the game tied 1-1 (actually he trailed 1-0, but Houston scored in their half inning before Russ Springer relieved Clemens). Hamels lasted until the eighth but also left with the game tied, 2-2.

The 'Stros were on their sixth pitcher, and the Phils even worked Matt Smith, their compensation from for Bobby Abreu AND Corey Lidle—Ha Ha Ha!—before Chase Utley homered to keep the Phils slightly above .500 but still in striking distance of the NL wild card hunt as they do their typical best at asymptotically approach some semblance of a playoff race.

When the Reds topple the Giants 3-0 to pull into a fourth in the wild card hunt, three games back both with a stunning 69-70 record, you know you have a special kind of race.

Anyway, when Clemens and Hamels faced off, a rarity in baseball took place: a pitcher opposed another twice his age. Hamels is 22 while we no longer know how old Clemens is without splitting him in two and counting his rings.

I thought it would be interesting to look up all the faceoffs between two starters with one being twice the age of the other. I found 120 through 2005.

Clemens is the only man to appear on the list as both the younger and the elder pitcher.

Here are the pitchers who appeared the most as the elder pitchers in these sorts of faceoffs:

ElderNum
Phil Niekro25
Nolan Ryan11
Jack Quinn7
Warren Spahn7
Cy Young6
Rip Sewell5

And here are the most appearances by a youngsters:

YoungerNum
Dwight Gooden5
Bret Saberhagen4
Bob Feller4
Hipolito Pichardo3
Larry Dierker3
Fernando Valenzuela3
Ralph Branca3
Don Drysdale3
Alex Fernandez3

Finally, here are all 121 contests starting with the Hamels-Clemens game and going back to the between Pud Galvin (33) and Willie McGill (16) in the 1890 Players League.

YrDatePitcher1Visiting teamVT LgAgePitcher2Home teamHT LgAge
200620060904Cole HamelsPHINL22Roger ClemensHOUNL44
200520050823David WellsBOSAL42Zack GreinkeKCAAL21
200320030909Edwin JacksonLANNL19Randy JohnsonARINL39
200320030601Roger ClemensNYAAL40Jeremy BondermanDETAL20
199419940604Joey HamiltonSDNNL23Charlie HoughFLONL46
199419940416Salomon TorresSFNNL22Charlie HoughFLONL46
199319930922Nolan RyanTEXAL46Dave FlemingSEAAL23
199319930804Alex FernandezCHAAL23Nolan RyanTEXAL46
199319930507Nolan RyanTEXAL46Hipolito PichardoKCAAL23
199219921002Charlie HoughCHAAL44Dave FlemingSEAAL22
199219920901Nolan RyanTEXAL45Hipolito PichardoKCAAL22
199219920827Hipolito PichardoKCAAL22Nolan RyanTEXAL45
199219920815Sam MilitelloNYAAL22Charlie HoughCHAAL44
199219920527Alex FernandezCHAAL22Nolan RyanTEXAL45
199119910906Wilson AlvarezCHAAL21Nolan RyanTEXAL44
199119910819Mike MussinaBALAL22Nolan RyanTEXAL44
199119910621Nolan RyanTEXAL44Ramon GarciaCHAAL21
199119910611Alex FernandezCHAAL21Nolan RyanTEXAL44
199019900930Reggie HarrisOAKAL21Nolan RyanTEXAL43
198819880716Melido PerezCHAAL22Tommy JohnNYAAL45
198719870915Joe NiekroMINAL42Jack McDowellCHAAL21
198719870914Don SuttonCALAL42Melido PerezKCAAL21
198719870805Brad ArnsbergNYAAL23Phil NiekroCLEAL48
198719870720Phil NiekroCLEAL48Bret SaberhagenKCAAL23
198719870627Joe NiekroMINAL42Ed CorreaTEXAL21
198719870605Tommy JohnNYAAL44Juan NievesMILAL22
198719870527Phil NiekroCLEAL48Roger ClemensBOSAL24
198719870522Phil NiekroCLEAL48Bill WegmanMILAL24
198719870501Phil NiekroCLEAL48Mark GubiczaKCAAL24
198619860905Phil NiekroCLEAL47Bill WegmanMILAL23
198619860830Phil NiekroCLEAL47Roger ClemensBOSAL23
198619860724Phil NiekroCLEAL47Mike LoyndTEXAL22
198619860719Phil NiekroCLEAL47Scott BankheadKCAAL22
198619860604Phil NiekroCLEAL47Rob WoodwardBOSAL23
198619860530Juan NievesMILAL21Phil NiekroCLEAL47
198619860514Phil NiekroCLEAL47Mark GubiczaKCAAL23
198619860509Joel DavisCHAAL21Phil NiekroCLEAL47
198619860503Phil NiekroCLEAL47Joel DavisCHAAL21
198519850914Bret SaberhagenKCAAL21Tommy JohnOAKAL42
198519850908Jose RijoOAKAL20Phil NiekroNYAAL46
198519850903Bill SwiftSEAAL23Phil NiekroNYAAL46
198519850823Phil NiekroNYAAL46Bill SwiftSEAAL23
198519850815Jerry KoosmanPHINL42Dwight GoodenNYNNL20
198519850801Phil NiekroNYAAL46Roy SmithCLEAL23
198519850708Bret SaberhagenKCAAL21Phil NiekroNYAAL46
198519850515Dwight GoodenNYNNL20Joe NiekroHOUNL40
198519850512Phil NiekroNYAAL46Bret SaberhagenKCAAL21
198519850510Steve CarltonPHINL40Dwight GoodenNYNNL20
198519850430Joe NiekroHOUNL40Dwight GoodenNYNNL20
198519850420Jose RomanCLEAL22Phil NiekroNYAAL46
198519850419Dwight GoodenNYNNL20Steve CarltonPHINL40
198319830814Fernando ValenzuelaLANNL22Phil NiekroATLNL44
198319830809Mark DavisSFNNL22Phil NiekroATLNL44
198319830531Phil NiekroATLNL44Lee TunnellPITNL22
198319830501Storm DavisBALAL21Gaylord PerrySEAAL44
198219820807Mike WittCALAL21Gaylord PerrySEAAL43
198119810825Phil NiekroATLNL42Mark DavisPHINL20
198119810816Gaylord PerryATLNL42Fernando ValenzuelaLANNL20
198119810528Fernando ValenzuelaLANNL20Gaylord PerryATLNL42
197919790719Mike MorganOAKAL19Luis TiantNYAAL38
197319730827David ClydeTEXAL18Mike CuellarBALAL36
196519650925Bill MonbouquetteBOSAL28Satchel PaigeKC1AL58
196519650625Warren SpahnNYNNL44Larry DierkerHOUNL18
196519650615Bob BuhlCHNNL36Larry DierkerHOUNL18
196519650605Larry DierkerHOUNL18Curt SimmonsSLNNL36
196519650520Warren SpahnNYNNL44Wade BlasingameML1NL21
196319630823Warren SpahnML1NL42Dick CalmusLANNL19
196319630614Ray CulpPHINL21Warren SpahnML1NL42
196219620929Tommie SiskPITNL20Warren SpahnML1NL41
195819580618Milt PappasBALAL19Murry DicksonKC1AL41
195719570810Warren SpahnML1NL36Von McDanielSLNNL18
195719570702Warren SpahnML1NL36Von McDanielSLNNL18
195719570616Murry DicksonSLNNL40Don DrysdaleBRONL20
195619560901Don DrysdaleBRONL19Marv GrissomNY1NL38
195619560423Don DrysdaleBRONL19Murry DicksonPHINL39
195319530922Satchel PaigeSLAAL46Bob MillerDETAL17
195219520726Bobo NewsomPHAAL44Chuck StobbsCHAAL22
194919490717Chuck StobbsBOSAL19Al BentonCLEAL38
194919490612Dutch LeonardCHNNL40Johnny AntonelliBSNNL19
194819480731Rip SewellPITNL41Erv PalicaBRONL20
194819480722Charlie BicknellPHINL19Rip SewellPITNL41
194719470727Thornton LeeCHAAL40Don JohnsonNYAAL20
194519450916Ralph BrancaBRONL19Ray PrimCHNNL38
194519450909Ralph BrancaBRONL19Vern KennedyCINNL38
194519450907Dick BarrettPHINL38Herm WehmeierCINNL18
194519450905Ralph BrancaBRONL19Rip SewellPITNL38
194519450422Hod LisenbeeCINNL46Al JurisichSLNNL23
194419440724Rip SewellPITNL37Cal McLishBRONL18
194419440708Cal McLishBRONL18Rip SewellPITNL37
194319430909Dick BarrettPHINL36Rex BarneyBRONL18
194119410827Lefty GroveBOSAL41Hal NewhouserDETAL20
194119410731Johnny PodgajnyPHINL21Charley RootCHNNL42
194119410716Charley RootCHNNL42Tommy HughesPHINL21
194119410615Johnny PodgajnyPHINL21Charley RootCHNNL42
194019400804Lefty GroveBOSAL40Hal NewhouserDETAL19
193919390913Fred HutchinsonDETAL19Lefty GroveBOSAL39
193819380627Lefty GroveBOSAL38Bob FellerCLEAL19
193719370822Bob FellerCLEAL18Ted LyonsCHAAL36
193719370815Ted LyonsCHAAL36Bob FellerCLEAL18
193619360906Randy GumpertPHAAL18Earl WhitehillWS1AL37
193619360830Bob FellerCLEAL17Rube WalbergBOSAL39
193119310912Van MungoBRONL20Eppa RixeyCINNL40
193119310902Mel HarderCLEAL21Red FaberCHAAL42
193019300814Wes FerrellCLEAL22Jack QuinnPHAAL46
192919290823Jack QuinnPHAAL45Hal McKainCHAAL22
192919290517Pete AlexanderSLNNL42Larry FrenchPITNL21
192819280915Jack QuinnPHAAL44Willis HudlinCLEAL22
192819280613Jack QuinnPHAAL44Josh BillingsDETAL20
192719270921Willis HudlinCLEAL21Jack QuinnPHAAL43
192619260602Jack QuinnPHAAL42Red RuffingBOSAL21
192619260429Red RuffingBOSAL21Jack QuinnPHAAL42
191219120723Jack PowellSLAAL37Herb PennockPHAAL18
191119110830Claude HendrixPITNL22Cy YoungBSNNL44
191119110826Roy GoldenSLNNL22Cy YoungBSNNL44
191119110719Joe WoodBOSAL21Cy YoungCLEAL44
190919090812Cy YoungCLEAL42Joe WoodBOSAL19
190919090624Jim ScottCHAAL21Cy YoungCLEAL42
190819080827Bill BaileySLAAL19Cy YoungBOSAL41
189018900923Ed GreenPH4AA40George NicolSL4AA19
189018900920Ed GreenPH4AA40Scott StrattonLS2AA20
189018900818Willie McGillCLPPL16Pud GalvinPTPPL33
Comments
2006-09-06 07:47:21
1.   Mike from Hoboken
I'm surprised Joe Nuxhall is not on the list.

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