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I'm Not Going To Take It Anymore
2004-07-30 21:42
by Mike Carminati

We owe you one. We owe you…ONE [holding up finger]

—Dr. J., Julius Erving, presenting the 76ers promise to the Philly fans in a TV commercial after Sixers loss to the Trailblazers in the 1976-77 NBA Finals

Yes We Can

—Team rallying cry coined by second baseman Dave Cash in 1974, before leaving for Montreal as a free agent

Corrales a pennant

—1982 Phils slogan referring to manager Pat Corrales who was fired before they went to the Series the next season thereby never "corralling" a single thing for the team

You Gotta Believe

—Slogan Phils copped from Mets for the 1980 World Series by Tug McGraw, who then turned around and told New York that they could "take this championship and shove it."

Now is the Time

—2004 Phillies slogan, a team whose only in-season roster change so far during the season has been to sign 36-year-old journeyman and Devil Ray-rejectee Paul Abbott (currently 1-5 with a 6.23 ERA in 9 starts)







Well, I'll tell you what happened: I just ran out of BS…

All I know is, you've got to get mad…I want you to get mad. I don't want you to protest, I don't want you to riot, I don't want you to write to your congressman…All I know is that first... You've got to get mad.

I want you to go to the window, open it, stick your head out and yell: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore."

—Peter Finch in "Network"

What the f' happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

—Senator John "Bluto" Blutarsky, "Animal House"

F' Casper Gomez and F' the F'ing Diaz brothers. F'em all. I bury those cock-a-roaches.

—Tony Montana

Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!

Larry: Lollygaggers!

Skip: Lollygaggers. (shaking head in shame)

—"Bull Durham"

Today [actually yesterday] is a day that will live in infamy

—Franklin D. Roosevelt named for the FDR Drive

That's it man. Game over, man! Game over!… In case you haven't been paying attention to current events, we just got our asses kicked, pal!

—Bill Paxton as Hudson in "Aliens"

We should be embarrassed. I’m the manager. I’m not even playing and I’m embarrassed.

—Phils manager Larry Bowa after their 12th straight loss in Miami

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!

—Michael Corleone

Looks like I've picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

—Lloyd "Quien es mas macho?" Bridges in Airplane

On June 17, 1992 the Philadelphia 76ers traded their best player and seven-year veteran Charles Barkley to the Phoenix Suns for Jeff Hornacek, Tim Perry, and Andrew Lang. Barkley would earn MVP honors as he led the Suns to the finals.

The Sixers saying that Barkley would not fit in then-new coach Doug Moe's offensive scheme, proceeded to draft Clarence Weatherspoon from Southern Mississippi in the first round of the NBA draft. Weatherspoon was nicknamed the "Baby Barkley" for the way his game resembled that of Sir Charles.

Doug Moe lasted less than a season and was fired with a 19-37 record. The team finished no higher than sixth in their division every season until 19976-98. 1995-96 was the sixth straight season in which their losses increased (they were 18-64). The Sixers wouldn't make the playoffs again until 1998-99, led by Allen Iverson.

I officially dropped my allegiance to the team when they duplicitously drafted Weatherspoon after dropping Barkley. I vowed never to follow the team until owner Harold Katz sold the team. In 1996 he did: he sold the Sixers to Comcast and Pat Croce, the team's former physical therapist, was named president. When I dropped my 76er alliance, I decided to follow Sir Charles, my favorite player at the time, to the Suns. I became a Suns fan but was mostly a Barkley fan. However, when he went from Phoenix to Houston, a team I never much cared for, and the Sixers changed ownership, I returned to the fold, reluctantly but triumphantly.

I got to experience a team being rebuilt into the best team in the East, and it was quite enjoyable. The Sixers were again a one-star team (Iverson), as they had been (at most) since their 1982-83 championship team, which was led by two, Dr. J and Moses Malone. That star, Iverson, again was a bad boy type who spoke his mind and had unpopular opinions (like Barkley). Given that the team faded after their sole appearance in the finals and especially after former coach Larry Brown led the Pistons to an NBA championship, it became imperative, according to the majority of fans and members of the media, that Iverson go since he reportedly did not fit into future…Everything old is new again.

Philadelphia is a second-tier sports city. Its mediocrity bespeaks its inferiority complex due to its close proximity to New York. No Philadelphia team has won a championship since the Jim Mora-led Philadelphia Stars of the USFL won the league championship in 1984. They moved to Baltimore in 1985 and won the last USFL championship that year.

The Sixers last won a championship in the 1982-83 season. The Phillies won the only championship in their 121-year history in 1980. The Flyers last won the Stanley Cup in the 1974-75 season and have lost in the finals five times since. The Eagles have not won an NFL championship since the advent of the Super Bowl, their last championship coming in 1960. They have lost the last three National Football Conference Championships, the last step before the Super Bowl, in a row. They made one appearance in a Super Bowl losing 27-10 to Oakland, a team they beaten handily earlier in the season, in Super Bowl XV (1980). As far as Philly dynasties, the Flyers won two Stanley Cups in 1973-74 and 1974-75 and the Eagles won two NFL championships in a row 1948-49. Then there are the A's who won in 1910-11 and 1929-30, but in between they were historically bad and they have since left for greener pastures. That's it. No other Philadelphia franchise has ever won two championships in a row. How pathetic is that?

Baseball teams in Boston and Chicago claim to be cursed. The New England Patriots just won their second Super Bowl in three years. The Celtics were a basketball dynasty for decades. Chicago saw Michael Jordan lead their Bulls to six NBA championships. Their Bears are one of the more storied teams in the NFL. Chicago and Boston fans are a bunch of mewling pansies.

Do you want to know what a curse is? I'll tell you. It's living in a city whose sports champions in recent memory can be counted on one hand. That's what. In the last 25 years, Philadelphia has one World Series champion, one NBA champion, and one USFL champion. That's it. In the last twenty, they have none. The Phillies best known team, the Whiz Kids, lost the World Series in four straight. That team would not finish above fourth place again until 1964, the year they were 6-1/2 games ahead with twelve games to play but lost ten games in a row to fall out of first into a tie for second, one game back, one of the greatest collapses in baseball history. "Ooh, a fan interfered with a ball and then we lost the seventh game of the league championship series." "Oh, my star pitcher stayed in the ballgame too long and we lost the seventh game of the ALCS". "Oh, boo hoo." They couldn't take one season steeped in the Steve Jeltz-laden abyss that is the Philly sports world.

So what am I yammering on about? Yesterday, the Phils lost their 14th straight road game in a row against their NL East rivals and current World Series champs, the Marlins. They now stand two games over .500, 3-1/2 games behind division-leading Atlanta.

The way that they lost the last game speaks volumes about this team: 10-1 with their sole mid-season acquisition Paul Abbott giving up eight runs in three innings and taking the loss. The only run in the game came when on hits by two utility players (Tomas Perez and Todd Pratt). They were outscored 32-9 in the four-game series. Abbott's 10-1 game four loss and flailing erstwhile number one starter, Millwood's 11-3 loss in game one book-ended the series nicely. This series opened a 13-game road trip for the Phils. They don’t play another divisional rival until the Braves come to town on August 31.

After the series, the media were circling the clubhouse awaiting manager Larry Bowa's dismissal. Bowa has been on the hot seat all season. Rumors of the Phils acquiring center fielder Steve Finley and pitcher Kris Benson have cooled as the trade "deadline" approaches this weekend. [Benson has since been traded to the Mets.]

Repeat After Me…

The Phils have arguably the worst manager in baseball, they haven't had a credible center fielder since Bowa gaslighted Marlon Byrd out of Philadelphia, and their starting rotation, which was a collection of number two and three starters with potential, has become the sum of its liabilities and is devolving into chaos. And yet none of those is the Phils' biggest problem.

The Phils entered the season as the popular favorites to win the division. Phils management, which had historically, to quote Johnny Sack on The Sopranos, treated nickels like manhole covers, had finally opened the coffers as they prepared to move into the new stadium. They acquired Jim Thome, David Bell, Kevin Millwood, Billy Wagner, and Eric Milton and re-signed Bobby Abreu and Pat Burrell to big contracts.

That was great.

Then they opened the stadium, the fans came, and management went back in their holes. They've made their money and obviously don't care whether the Phils remain competitive or not, as long as it doesn't affect their bottom line.

So what can we do as average fans?

We can affect their bottom line.

Boycott the team. Don't buy tickets to future games at the new ballpark. If you already have tickets, don’t use them, don't show up at the park. Don't eat at their concession stands or park in their parking lots. I love Harry Kalas, but I'm saying that we should not even watch them on TV.

Just ignore them.

Until they comply with our demands. What demands?

First, enough is enough: Bowa should go. That's basically a given.

However, that's no the be-all end-all. I thought Joe Kerrigan would be a great addition when he was hired as pitching coach, but his tenure has been as total and complete failure and the situation in each of the last two seasons has rapidly deteriorated. His welcome is well worn out. Bye bye.

Management has to get the players they need. They need a starting pitcher and a center fielder minimum. They have some completely superfluous players that are still valuable. Ryan Howard is languishing in the minors. It is highly unlikely that he will even be a useful player to this team. Trade him. They have two competent second basemen, Placido Polanco and Chase Utley. Utley is younger and has more power and potential. I like Polanco, but he's completely unnecessary. Get rid of him.

Until and unless they make all of these moves, this team won't compete. That's fine, but we don't have go along for the ride.

This team has too much talent not to win this division. The Braves on paper should not win this division. But they don't play the games on paper. The Braves still have the infrastructure that helped them win eleven division crowns. If you gave John Schuerholz, Bobby Cox, and Leo Mazzone this team, they would be ten games up right now.

Gross American Product
2004-07-29 23:15
by Mike Carminati

By Gregor Gross

Since Mike showed us which team stats really count when it comes to winning, I thought it was about time to see who really belongs at the top of the Power Rankings. We learned, I thought, how different statistics correlate to winning percentages, so why not rank the teams after the stats they have accumulated in 2004 so far and see who'll come out on top?

So I took four popular stats for pitching and batting and ranked all teams. Then I multiplied their ranking in that statistic with its correlation, did that for all stats and added those figures together. In the end, the lowest figure should show the best team.

I took these stats and their correlations for pitching and batting:

Pitching
ERA-AL0,764
Whip-AL0,769
K/BB-AL0,606
K/9IP-AL0,443



Batting
BA0,548
OBP0,697
Slug0,576
OPS0,642

Since I am a young German, and the new generation over here is famous for its laziness, I said let's do this only for the American League today. For the National League, I said, tomorrow would be fine. But before we go for the pitching rankings, I just want to say to you that this will make no more sense than anything Buster Olney over there at ESPN has to say:

TeamERA-RankCorrel. * RankWHIP-RankCorrel. * Rank
NY Yankees57,6429,997
Boston Red Sox39,16839,228
Toronto Blue Jays76,112113,076
TB Devil Rays94,584103,845
Baltimore Orioles131,528140,769
Minnesota Twins29,932110,766
Chicago White Sox85,34866,921
Cleveland Indians113,056122,307
Detroit Tigers122,29285,383
KC Royals140,764131,538
Oakland As110,69657,69
Anaheim Angels48,40448,459
Texas Rangers66,87676,152
Seattle Mariners103,8294,614



TeamK/BB-RankCorrel. * RankK/9IP-RankCorrel. * Rank
NY Yankees27,87883,101
Boston Red Sox37,27216,202
Toronto Blue Jays112,424102,215
TB Devil Rays140,606130,886
Baltimore Orioles131,21254,43
Minnesota Twins18,48444,873
Chicago White Sox56,06121,329
Cleveland Indians84,24235,316
Detroit Tigers93,63692,658
KC Royals121,818140,443
Oakland As65,45463,987
Anaheim Angels46,66625,759
Texas Rangers74,848111,772
Seattle Mariners103,0373,544



TeamSum PitchingSuper Rank Pitching
NY Yankees28,6164
Boston Red Sox31,872
Toronto Blue Jays13,82711
TB Devil Rays9,92112
Baltimore Orioles7,93913
Minnesota Twins34,0551
Chicago White Sox19,6586
Cleveland Indians14,9219
Detroit Tigers13,96910
KC Royals4,56314
Oakland As27,8275
Anaheim Angels29,2883
Texas Rangers19,6487
Seattle Mariners15,0088

And batting?

TeamBA-RankCorrel. * RankOBP-RankCorrel. * Rank
NY Yankees102,7438,364
Boston Red Sox36,57619,758
Toronto Blue Jays93,288103,485
TB Devil Rays131,096131,394
Baltimore Orioles55,4866,273
Minnesota Twins112,192112,788
Chicago White Sox83,83675,576
Cleveland Indians46,02829,061
Detroit Tigers27,12447,667
KC Royals140,548140,697
Oakland As64,93256,97
Anaheim Angels17,67284,879
Texas Rangers74,38494,182
Seattle Mariners121,644122,091



TeamSLG-RankCorrel. * RankOPS-RankCorrel. * Rank
NY Yankees46,33628,346
Boston Red Sox27,48818,988
Toronto Blue Jays121,728112,568
TB Devil Rays112,304121,926
Baltimore Orioles93,45693,852
Minnesota Twins102,88103,21
Chicago White Sox36,91237,704
Cleveland Indians65,18465,778
Detroit Tigers55,7656,42
KC Royals131,152140,642
Oakland As74,60875,136
Anaheim Angels84,03284,494
Texas Rangers18,06447,062
Seattle Mariners140,576131,284



TeamSum BattingSuper Rank Batting
NY Yankees25,7864
Boston Red Sox32,811
Toronto Blue Jays11,06911
TB Devil Rays6,7212
Baltimore Orioles19,0619
Minnesota Twins11,0710
Chicago White Sox24,0285
Cleveland Indians26,0513
Detroit Tigers26,9712
KC Royals3,03914
Oakland As21,6467
Anaheim Angels21,0778
Texas Rangers23,6926
Seattle Mariners5,59513

So what do we learn from this? We see why the Twins outperform their Exp. W%. They pitch so well. We see that the Red Sox can hit while the Royals can't. We also see that when BP told us that Johan Santana in 2004 might win a Cy Young because he faces the Tigers and Indians so often, they quite underestimated how tough it is to pitch against those offenses. We also see, by the way, how good it is to be a Tribe fan after all. But I'm straying a bit here.

So on to the overall rankings, which basically is pitching and batting together:

TeamSuper Duper SumSuper Duper Rank
NY Yankees27,2012
Boston Red Sox32,341
Toronto Blue Jays12,44811
TB Devil Rays8,320513
Baltimore Orioles13,510
Minnesota Twins22,56255
Chicago White Sox21,8436
Cleveland Indians20,4868
Detroit Tigers20,479
KC Royals3,80114
Oakland As24,73654
Anaheim Angels25,18253
Texas Rangers21,677
Seattle Mariners10,301512

Isn't this a terrifying scientific work? Before you hit the streets telling everyone the Indians are the eighth best team in the American League because some German fellow told you so on a Phillies fan's website that you read daily, please note, however, that all these rankings are for today only. It could look a bit different tomorrow. As with Buster Olneys b(aseballb)urps, it comes with a big grain of salt. Who tells me what it is gets lots of smooches!

Joe Morgan Chat Da(y) Ali G Show, Part II
2004-07-28 21:53
by Mike Carminati

Ali G: Booyakasha! Checkit, I iz back with my main geeza, Joe Morgan, to take more questions from yous geezas.

Some of yous asked, right, for a way to translate like wot I iz bangin' on about. I guess yous Americans don't recognize like da main bitch's English. Anyway, in da house's a glossary, like dem had in dat book "A Chocolate Orange", as well as a translata or two from english to ali g bang. Just fa wicked, in da house's a website translata into me lingo. Aiii.

Da Wicked (Bad) (continued like)

Darren Chicago: What seems to be the deal with Sammy Sosa? Could he still be trying to find his rhythm after the time on the DL? Or is it possible that his skills and career are beginning to decline? The Sosa I see now is the Sosa of 96-97 who struck out ALOT... Is this a phase?

I've noticed him striking out too. But I have to give him the benefit of the doubt because he was on the DL so long. I talked to him a few weeks ago and he said then he thought it would take awhile. But he still makes that team better. Without him they would struggle even more.

Ali G: Darren Chicago? Iz u da geeza dey named da city after?

Anyway, the geeza isn't strikin' out more. 'E's strikin out less dan last year and walkin more. In da house's a table of 'is strikeouts, walks (excludin' intentional), and westside runs pa plate appearance fa each season and fa 'is carea. Checkit:

SeasonK/PABB/PAHR/PA
19890.2320.0440.020
19900.2590.0500.026
19910.2900.0360.030
19920.2160.0620.027
19930.2110.0500.051
19940.2010.0520.055
19950.2130.0750.057
19960.2480.0520.074
19970.2510.0520.052
19980.2370.0820.091
19990.2400.0980.088
20000.2380.1020.071
20010.2150.1110.090
20020.2160.1320.074
20030.2430.0900.068
20040.2390.1110.071
Total0.2330.0790.064

'Is 2004 season isn't far accordin' to dose ratios from is 2000 season. 'Is average is just fifty points lowa' and 'e's missed more time. But da geeza is 35 now, wot do yous expect, every playa to be Barry Bonds?

Dieter - sf: Joe - what's your take on the Zambrano situation earlier this week? He complains that Edmonds got cocky, yet, Zambrano is constantly jumping around on the mound after K's, pointing fingers, etc. Should Dusty do somehting here?

I agree with you. Zambrano is more demonstrative than Edmonds from what I've seen. Dusty just says he's a hyper guy. But if he's going to jump around, the hitter can do what he wants to do. I don't like any of it. Nobody should be putting on a show to upstage the other guy. But it's not just Zambrano doing it. It will get even uglier as the pennant races heat up.

Ali G: It is wicked to comment on somethin whun it is obviously yous know nothin about da events concerned. Edmonds was 'it by a pitch in da first innin probably unintentionally coz it was first and third wiv two outs at da time. Thun he was plunked by da pitch right afta Scot Rolen's go-ahead 'oma in da eighf. It was about as overtly intentional as yous can get.

As far as wot Edmond did to provoke da plunkin, afta he was 'it da first time, he trotted down to first wiv no incident, no stares, no apparent comments. Afta 'is 'oma in da fourf, he simply ran da bases: he didn't celebrate or gloat at all. Checkit.

Scott (New Lenox, IL): Joe: Have you and Ryne Sandberg finally put aside your differences?

I've never had any differences with Ryne. People have said I'm trying to keep him out of the HOF but that's absurd. I think Bill Mazeroski is the best defensive 2B I ever saw. People seem to have a problem with that but it's how I feel. I've never had a difference with anybody. If you look in my history, I wrote a column that said I was surprised Sandberg didn't get more votes. I don't have a problem with anybody, but I guess they have a problem with me!

Ali G: 'Ey, innit jus' like askin a geeza if he still beats 'is wife. Innit wicked.

I think Bill Mazeroski is the best defensive 2B I ever saw.—Natta about your non-sequitor.

Obviously, Sandberg was known more fa is offense than is defense. innit da discussion, and obviously, Maz's and Sandberg's offense wuzn't comparable.

Me would dig da little "Mingin 'Arry" turn at da end. Is yous a bit paranoid or wot, Joe?

Katie (DC): Page2 has a you on their poll of best batting stances, who do you think has teh best stance?

I can't pick just one person. My idea of a good stance is a guy that is square to the pitcher and holds his hands high and keeps them high during his stride.

Ali G: Lightun up, Francis. Live a little, pick a stance. It will not kill yous to 'ave an opinion..

Jason (Madison): Craig counsell...no contest

His was very pronounced. All the hitters we have talked about today, their hands always stay high, they don't drop their hands. Vlad, Ramirez, Bonds, they all keep their hands right where they start.

Ali G: "Wuz"? Dat geeza iz still playin'.

One problem wiv Counsell's bein da wickedest stance, all da udders bein discussed actually could 'it.

Hank (NYC): Mr. Morgan -- Always a pleasure to hear you announce. Especially when you sit down with Barry as you did during the All-Star game. Thanks. Now -- for probably the umpteenth time today -- with Prior going down last night, do you think the Cubs should forgo the middle man (Boston and Nomar) and deal directly with the D-Backs in order to get Randy as a replacement and send their young pitching prospects to Arizona?

The Cubs need help. I can't decide what they need to add to complete their rotation, but let's just say they need help. Who fits best right there for them, I don't know. I have an opinion but I can't tell the Cubs what to do. I can't tell them what they need. All I can say here is the Cubs need help.

Ali G: Dis geeza Mike is tellin me to say ATFQ though me don't 'ave a clue wot it means.

Deebo (Fairview, NJ): Hey Joe! My question involves the current marketing situation in baseball. I was in Montreal for the first time two weeks ago and one of my priorities was to see the Expos before they are possibly relocated. I knew that they were playing the Blue Jays, and the schedule said they were playing in Montreal. To my major disappointment it turned out the teams were playing in Puerto Rico! I understand that both Montreal and Toronto are lousy, and fan interest is at an all-time low, but certianly they could have produced at least 2-3 times the gate of a normal Expos game, considering the rivalry. My question is, whose bright idea was it from MLB was it to have the two Canadian teams playing somewhere other than Canada??? This to me was a bad job by Major League Baseball.

Yes, I would agree Deebo. I've questioned MLB's marketing efforts in a lot of cases. Over the years, I don't think they have done nearly as good a job as football or basketball. That's why those sports are now competing for the spot as our "national pastime". We -- meaning Major League Baseball -- needs to step up and do a better job marketing our product and the change needs to come quickly.

Ali G: "Deebo"? Were not yous da man dat sang dat song about whippits?

Maybe yous should ave looked at da expos sex life [trans. "schedule"] before yous went to check them. Of course, it is silly to 'ave da two canadian crews play in Puerto Rico, but dat is a mina issue compared to da opun sore dat da expos story 'as bin fa years.

Chicago Guy: Hi Joe! Have you seen the White Sox ad campaign Us vs. Them? What do you think about it? Some are saying it is a low blow by the South Side marketing team.

I did see it, I don't remember having that same opinion -- but then again I don't live in Chicago so I didn't think it was a low blow. I don't remember having any reaction to it good or bad.

Ali G: Gee, dat is a surprise givun da strong opinions yous 'ave on such diverse issues.

My one question is who's "dem." If it's da twins and da chill of da AL Central, wicked. If it's da cubs, thun da sox ave missed da point.

Donnie (St Louis, MO: Hey Joe, what do you think about our red hot Cardinals? Are they going to try to enter the Randy Johnson sweepstakes or be happy with what they have? Are there any other moves you think they'll make?

Well, I think the Cardinals have enough to win the National League and then it's just a matter of how well you play in the playoffs. I don't see how they will get in the Randy JOhnson runnings. They are supposed to be cutting salary not adding. They definitely have enough to win without him. If you get Randy Johnson and you are already a good team. YOu are pretty much poised to win a championship if you are sitting in first place. But I don't think they need him to do it.

Ali G: So da Yankees who 'ave Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina, and Javia Vazquez need Johnson, but da Cardinals don't? Da Cardinals is led by Jason Marquis, Cris Carpenta, and Jeff Suppan. dey feel confident wiv dat rotation in da playoffs?

Eric, Chicago: Joe, from a former player....why do you think baseball is the absolute greatest sport there is?

Well, I think that every person -- boy, girl -- has played some form of baseball in their life. Everybody can understand the runs and the hits -- the basic scheme of the game. YOu have to have a different kind of knowledge for something like football or basketball -- for example zone defenses and first downs and field goals and the like. Plus, there is a pleasant pace in baseball -- in football and basketball there is a clock that disrupts and dictates how you play and what you do. We don't have that in baseball.

Ali G: Innit wot makes da game wicked? Dat everyone can understand it? Ask da average fan to explain da balk rule. Yous don't evun understand it and yous played it fa twenty years, Joe.

Katie (Cheyenne, Wyoming): Hi Joe! What ballpark gimmick do you think is the worst: (a) the pool in Arizona, (b) the hill in the outfield in Houston, (c) Johnny Damon's hair, or (d) none of the above.

I'd probably say the hill in Houston. Guys can really get injured out there. Nobody can get injured in the pool ... and you can't get hurt looking and Johnny's hair.

Ali G: Yous might laugh, but innit not pacifically true. Say, yous is checkin' out dat geezer's 'air and sayin', "checkit, dat geezer's 'air is long", and thun a ball 'its yous in da 'ead? Wot thun?

David (Chicago): Is the hill in Houston really that much worse than the flagpole on the warning track at old Tiger Stadium?

None of them should have been there.

Ali G: Actually, it's "neitha." "None" is gastronomically incorrect.

John:Omaha: What do you think is the best ballpark in the league?

From a broadcast standpoint, I still like Los Angeles. Houston -- now i'm just speaking of the booths. I don't really have a favorite b/c I don't play on the surfaces. I will say that all the new ballparks are beautiful -- San Francisco, Cincinatti, Seattle. I haven't seen Pittsburgh or Philadelphia, but I am very impressed with how they are building parks these days.

Ali G: Who cares about da booths? Way to stay in touch wiv like da average fan, Joe. Dis geeza mike is remindin me to sayATFQ again.

Jason (New Orleans via Maryland): A best stadium question and no nod to Camden Yards? I know you don't get there that often, but it has to top Safeco on name alone.

Well, that's why baseball is such a great sport. We've all got our opinions. I like Baltimore, I was just giving some examples -- I didn't name 30 stadiums.

Ali G: Nah, but almos'.

Peter (boston): should they tear down fenway?

They need a new ball park in boston. The fans deserve a new park, you spend so much money to go see the game and you have to go to an antiquated venue. When you are paying that kind of money, you deserve the same amenities. I feel the same way about Wrigley. These places are beautiful and historic but they are not fan friendly anymore. I'm not saying tear them down, I love the tradition, but they are not nearly as nice as SafeCo or the Houston park or these other new stadiums for the fans.

Ali G: That's one way to stop the Red Sox fans from whining.

Maybe it's a fluke that Fenway and Wrigley survived when so many other old stadiums were replaced. But now they are the only two left. Couldn't that be part of those two franchise's appeal and mightn't help to draw fans? Look at how well the Canadiens did after they got rid of the forum.

Innit one way to stop da red sox fans from whining all da time?

Maybe it's a fluke dat Fenway and Wrigley survived whun so many udda batty [old] stadiums went da way of da Dido. But now dey is da only two left. Couldn't dat be part of those two franchise's appeal and mightn't it 'elp to attract fans? Check at 'ow well da Canadiens did afta dey got rid of da Forum.

Da Mingin (Ugly)

Scott (Sacramento, CA): Joe, I thought that Griffey had finally shaken those injuries bugs away and was having a great season. Why is he so unlucky these days? Will we ever see Junior of old? Should he move back to the AL and become a DH?

He is too good and has too much to offer to be just a DH. Some people are lucky. I'm lucky I got to play in the big leagues. Luck and destiny is all part of a persons life. He has had to deal with a lot of adversity. I subscribe to the theory that those things just make a person stroger. He has just had a lot of bad luck. In the beginning, he played so hard and ran into so many walls that it eventually caught up with him. Cesar Cedeno told me once the guys who get hurt are the guys who get hurt. Makes sense. Griffey only knows one way to play the game.

Ali G: [T]he guys who get hurt are the guys who get hurt. Makes sense.—Yo, for real. Dis geeza be makin' sense to me. Coz like dems wot don't get hurt, don't gets hurt. Dat's why we can ignore like pitch counts fa pitchers and da dig. Respek!

Will we ever see Junior of old? No, 'im ain't been the Junior of batty since about 1997. 'Im iz a well wicked playa, but an .862 OPS in a 'itter's park? 'E did 'aven't 'ad a maximum season wiv an OPS dat low since 1990, and thun it was whole diff'rent ballgame.

Concerned Baseball Fan: Joe: Has the baseball world forgotten about the ugly steriod cloud hanging over its head. Especially with players like Giambi losing 20 pounds and all of his power. What happens if and when these allegations are proven, or is baseball going to sweep this under the rug like it tries to do with everything controversial?

I don't think they can sweep it under the rug this time. We underestimate the baseball fan, including people like you who are still looking at this. What I'm waiting for is proof. Once we can identify guys who are proven to be steroid users, then we can come down on those guys harshly. Until we know who is guilty, we can't just assume because a player has lost 20 lbs. that he is a steroid user. It won't be swept under the rug if we prove certain guys are using.

Ali G: Yo, dis geeza Giambi iz a wicked 'xample of steroid use. Neva mind dat da man 'as a intestinal parasite dat might be life-threatenin'. It iz just to cova da weight loss from stoppin' dem steroids.

I guess barry bonds no longa be da posta child fa steroid use since he is still as wicked as eva at age 40.

Cole (Dallas): Everyone is talking about how the midseason MVP is Vlad or Pudge but shouldn't Michael Young, Hank Blalock, or Fransisco Cordero be considered too?

Going back to the steroid thing for a second ... the reason MLB will not be able to sweep this under the rug is because of fans like you guys and gals. You won't stand for it and you shouldn't.

I think Michael Young should be considered. Blalock is also having a great year. But Pudge is first and Vlad is second. I don't usually vote at the halfway point but if I did vote, it would be Pudge.

Ali G: You won't stand for it and you shouldn't….Yo, dem fans iz wot keep bringin' up da issue even when dey ain't being asked about it.

As fa da MVP, why is pudge bein' mentioned whun da tigers is not contenders? I thought dat was a maja criterion like fa Joe. And if Rodriguez be mentioned, why not Guillun? And why not Manny Ramirez or Sheffield?

Besides, maybe Young as a decent shot at MVP, but Blalock and for real Cordero ain't got all dat much to recommend dem. If a crew as three MVP candidates, maybe innit a wicked indication dat dey don't evun 'ave one.

Brent (Simsbury, CT): Mr. Morgan, Going back to your comments above on the steroids issue -- didn't you and everyone else notice how smaller the waistlines were of the participants in the HR derby? It was clearly evident for anyone who watches baseball year in & year out.

I'm a guy, I'm not looking at waistlines ; )

Yes, I did notice guys seemed smaller overall, bulk-wise. I would like for all of you to read my column this week, at the end I talk about steroids for a bit and how I feel. I've noticed a lot of things but I try not to make up my mind on things until I have proof on things. It's a devastating situation. If you accuse a guy for something he didn't do, he may never get over it.

Ali G: Respek. Check at David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez and tell me dat their waistlines is not smalla.

Let us check out dat article:

I turned 40 on Sept. 19, 1983 when I was with Philadelphia Phillies. On that team, I was reunited with Pete Rose and Tony Perez. We had been teammates on Cincinnati's Big Red Machine team that won back-to-back World Series in 1975 and '76.

Dis is da first public acknowledgement by Joe dat 'e played fa da Phils. And 'e 'as to like qualify it: it was OK coz he played wiv two teammates from da Massiv Red Machine.

If Bonds really wants to, I believe he can break Hank Aaron's all-time record of 755 home runs. Bonds has 682 home runs now. If he hits 18 more homers this season, he'd have an even 700. The math is simple from there. If he plays three more seasons and averages just 20 home runs per season, Bonds would finish with 760.

So da gezza gonna 'it 18 westside runs in less dun 'alf a season, but all 'e's gonna 'it next year is 20. 'E projects to just 14 more on da year by da way. Maybe if 'e 'its 39-40 dis season, 'e will 'it about 30 next season and 25 da year afta to tie da record. Innit more of a natural decline dat way. Maybe he as a betta shot to it more westside runs if 'e starts to decline soon since 'e will get fewa walks and more at-bats.

And fanks, Joe, fa 'elpin us wiv da maf. I failed dat in scool and did 'ave no idea dat three times twenty be sixty.

There's been talk about Bonds being the best defensive left fielder ever. That's tough to gauge for me, because I didn't see players from previous eras. But I'd say he's among the top three left fielders of all time.

So 'e does not know about dem old gezzars, but 'e would say Bonds is in da top five. Yous know there is dat fin' called baseball analysis dat can be used to gauge dese fings propaly. Otherwise, comparin' playas across eras iz like a intellectually stiff end. Maybe as a baseball analyst, yous might dig to try it sometime, Joe.

"When someone's reputation and livelihood are at stake, it seems that they're at least entitled to some of the same protections we give an accused criminal."

I agree with that 100 percent. Those are great quotes and great thoughts for all of us to live by -- because, whether the topic is baseball or the Olympics, we're Americans first and steroid hunters second.

'Ow patriotic. Fanks fa acknowledgin' the like Bill of Riots.

Einstein: If everyone was tested for steroids before and during the season, and those who tested positive were banned for life wouldn't steroids be a non issue (practically) with the next generation ?

That would be a good cure, in theory. We execute murders but people still kill people. I think they need a steroid policy that checks before and during the season.

Ali G: So we shouldn't take away a players livelihood wiv unfounded accusations, but executin them is OK?

To quote Carl Speckla, "Correct me if me is wrong, but if I kill all da golfers they'll lock me up and throw away da key." But we can continue to spread rumors of steroid use throughout da season, "We don't evun need a reason."

By da way, I think da geeza askin da question is puttin yous on, Joe. 'Is name might be a tipoff.

Nick (Quakertown, PA): Why does Vlad get all the triple crown hype, and there's none for manny when manny is leading him in all three categories?

I agree, Manny probably has a better chance to do it. But I don't see we will see anyone do it again. Just because of the HR hitters and so many runs being scored. It will just be hard for a guy to win in both catergories. Bonds may have had a chance if they pitched to him but he just won't be able to drive in enough runs.

Ali G: But Manny wuz not an MVP candidate?

By da way, "both catergories", dere's three of dem categories in da Triple Clown.

Nathan (san antonio, tx): When was the last time you spoke to Pete Rose. Do you think that charade he pulled with the book has cost him his last chance to be in the Hall?

I talked to Pete two weeks ago. Just before the All-Star Game. I think the book hurt him a lot, but I woudln't say it cost him his chance. It's up to him to gain back that momentum he used to have. The timing was bad on the book and I think he realizes that now.

Ali G: Timin'? 'E shot 'imself in da foots fa a few dollars. 'E will neva get in now.

Ben (TN): Why won't the Reds spend any money to go out and get players, it seems as if the front office is no longer interested in winning?

Well, it's been that way for a few years. A lot of people criticized Schott but she did play the players. That has all changed. I can't answer the question because I see what you see. They just aren't spending money and I'm not sure why. It's always easier for us to spend other peoples money isn't it?

Ali G: Huh? [P]lay da playas Does u mean "Play da payas" or "Pay da payas" or "Pay da playas"?

Nate (KS): Hey Joe! The other day I was watching ESPN Classic (best invention ever!) and there was a Yankees/Tigers game on, I think. The year was 1976, and during the broadcast they showed the all-star balloting from that year. It was pretty much yourself and your Reds teammates vs the American League. Were people crying foul in 76 because of the Reds dominance and all-star presence like folks seem to do in present day with the Yankees pretty much representing the AL in the all-star game? Or does everyone outside of NY just hate the yankees?

I can't remember how many players we had on the team -- Me, Bench, Rose, Perez and Conception, I suppose. There wasnt' any cry of foul, b/c I mean, we were the best players at our postions. One of the years I remember I got more votes than anybody, I'm not sure what year that was. But we all legitimately deserved to be on there. No foul.

Ali G: Youse forgot Griffey and Fosta. As far as bein da wickedest, Perez batted .260 wiv a .779 OPS. Bench did 'ave a wicked season fa 'im: .234 and .741. Rose ad a lowa OPS dan Schmidt and Madlock.

Jeff (NYC): Joe, Randy Johnson is basically dictating that he be traded to the Yankees, in what would basically amount to a salary dump, since the Yanks have no prospects the D-Backs want. Is there any chance that Bud Selig, realizing that this is an absolute travesty, would veto the trade? Please, please, please say yes!!!

He definitely can veto the trade, I don't know if he has enough grounds in his mind to do so, but he definitely can. If he feels the trade is one-sided or unfair. He can do it ... I don't know if he would.

Ali G: Da trade ain't evun appened and yet we is theorizin about it bein vetoed. Dere's nothin forcin da diamondbucks to trade Johnson.

Tim (Springfield, MA): Joe, You've said that you don't care for home-field advantage to be determined by the results of an exhibition, and that it should go back to alternating between the leagues. Isn't that just as arbitrary? You said that the farther we stray from tradition, the more the game suffers, but wouldn't you agree that the game is much better than it was 70 years ago?

I don't think tradition was part of the game 70 years ago. The point is, if it's arbitrary, it is fair to everyone. I don't think this way is fair to the losing league. I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I've played the game for a long time. I know how I would feel and how other players would feel if I lost home field advantage in the World Series b/c some pitcher served up a home run in the 9th inning of the All-Star game. Some teams have not stake in the World Series race and they don't care who wins the All-Star game. How can they. The results don't effect them. It's not a fair way to determine the advantage in my opinion.

Ali G: [I]f it's arbitrary, it is fair to everyone.—Dig just da court system.

By da way, alternatin' 'omefield is not arbitrary. In da house's da definition of arbitrary, "Based on or determined by main man preference or convenience ratha than by necessity or da intrinsic nature of somethin'."

I don't think tradition was part of the game 70 years ago.—Youse navy, Joe. Dem batty geezas bem bangin' on about da yufes despoilin' da sport since before da first maja league. Wot, youse thought u wuz da first?

Nathan; Dallas: Joe-- Heard a rumor that you were on a comeback tour to save the Astros? Any truth, or is ESPN taking good care of you!

I have the second best job in the world ... the only job better than mine is playing, and since I can't do that anymore, I'm staying right here.

Ali G: [T]he only job better than mine is playing—dat's what da geeza's iz askin' youse about. Wot iz u bangin' on about?

John (Durham, NC): Why wouldn't you just give home field advantage to the team with the best record instead of alternating leagues?

Nope, you can't do that b/c each league is playing a different schedule. Sometimes the teams in the NL are weaker than the teams in the AL and vice-versa. You can't compare records on different schedules and different opponents. For instance, take last year's Detroit team as an example. If they are in your league, that makes a difference in your record.

Ali G: Each division within a league plays a different sex life and yet dey seed da crews in da league playoffs by record.

And wot iz youse bangin' on about Detroit? Wuz dey in da like playoffs last year?

Sean (Pompano, Florida): Hey Joe! Could you handicap the NL East for us? Have you ever seen such a close race, 4 teams within 1 game?

Well, as I've said, that's what parity will do for you. We dont' have a lot of great teams in baseball anymore, everybody is staying close. YOu have a lot of weaknesses as well as strengths. When the strengths show up, you go on a winning streak. When the weaknesses come out, you go on a skid. That's what will determine a race as close as this. I cannot predict at this point, but it will come down to streaks and losing skids.

Ali G: No great crews anymore? Youse mean like in 1973 when da Mets won da NL Least by a game and a 'alf and dere were three otha teams within five games of dem (St. Louis 1.5 back, Pittsburgh 2.5, Montreal 3.5, Chicago 5).

Sorry I mentioned dem since dey beat youse wicked Massiv Red Machine in da playoffs.

Dere is a lot of parity dis year, but a) innit wot a salary tommy (cap) will do and b) wuzn't it just a year or two ago whun we wuz bein told by maja league baseball dat mostest crews could not evun compete anymore? Maybe it be just cyclical like.

Matt (Ranger, Texas): Joe, I am a huge Houston Astros fan and I was wondering how you think the Astros will in the 2nd half under Phil Garner.

I don't think they'll do any better than they did before. The makeup of the team will not allow them to do much better. They depend on power. They don't have any speed. Their defense is not all that good. They are a .500 team right now, they'll probably finish a few games over .500 but you won't see a dramatic difference.

Ali G: They depend on power. They don't have any speed.—Iz dat dem Astros or Joe's A's dat he bangin' on about? Dis be Joe's typical answer for the A's. I guess he

Brian (Longview,TX): Joe, how about an insight on the AL West race.... where do you see it playing out?... A's need a legitimate closer and a bat, the Angels need a starting pitcher to replace the Colon fiasco, and the Rangers need a little more starting pitching as well?... who do you give the edge to?

That's why there is a lot of mediocre teams right now. See, all those teams are at or near the top but yet they all still have some real deficiencies. At the beginning of the year, I thought Anaheim was head and shoulders above the rest. I still think the Angels will win, but it will be interesting. So much parity.

Ali G: Yo, da sky be fallin' coz dere ain't no greta teams no mo'. Dat's da answer to efry question.

Maybe youse should mention dat da A's picked up a closa (Dotel) and dat da Rangas are to a geeza playin ova deir heads.

James, Arlington, VA: Joe, thanks for talking to us die hard baseball fans; in my opinion baseball fans are the greatest out there...it takes real fans to follow 162 games plus the playoffs. Question, will the Phillies make any deals before the 30th and if so, what do you think they can get? Right now they are an average team at best...Thanks

I agree 100% -- they have true fans. It's easier to follow football -- they play one game a week. And hoops only has 82 games in a season. It takes somebody special to be a baseball fan. I haven't seen too much of the Phillies but I think one of their biggest problems is that their stadium is so easy to hit homeruns in that they get accustomed to that and their game leans on that strategy. Will Millwood be able to turn it around? I don't know, but historically he hasn't. Colon has historically pitched better in the second half of the season, but not Kevin Millwood. They need him going forward.

Ali G: Da dirtief? Da trade deadline iz da dirtyfirst.

As fa as homey field advantage in Philly, da Phils score as many runs on da road. Dey just 'it fewa westside runs.

I 'ave no clue wot youse iz sayin' about Millwood and Colon.

Josh NY: Speaking of parity, it appears that all major sports are going through this parity situation, what do you feel it is attributed too? I mean look at the NFL so many teams at 9-7 and 8-8 then there was the Pats, in my opinion they won the Mediocre bowl

I definitely think dilution is a problem in Major League Baseball. It's so much harder to field a star baseball player. The skill level it takes to raise a star Major League Baseball player is much harder to find than a star NFL player. Sure, I'm bias, but I mean that. It's different. The difference in skill and talent in baseball from college to the minors to MLB is enormous. A football player or basketball player can more easily make the jump from college to the pro league. Baseball is different. That is why the talent is diluted and that is why we see this parity in the game today.

Ali G: Checkit, delusion? We 'ave arguably da mostest playa eva (Bonds), one of da mostest pitchas (Clemens), arguably da mostest catcher (Piazza), and arguably da mostest shortstop (A-Rod). In fact, da talent pool is betta dan eva. Do he evun watch da games?

Keep it real and much respek.

Maddux Redux
2004-07-28 13:21
by Mike Carminati

As Greg Maddux flies under the radar in his quest for 300 wins, hopefully it will revive the discussions from five to ten years ago as to who is the greatest pitcher of the current era, Maddux or Clemens. I personally prefer Clemens but am open to the debate. The Rocket's foray into New York and ensuing media circuses (circi?) from his pursuit of 300 as well as the FOX-favorite beaning of/bat-tossing at Mike Piazza, have helped to cement Clemens as the favorite. It seems that Maddux has lagged behind Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez in the court of public opinion over the last few years.

Maddux was once the thinking fan's favorite pitcher and the darling of all the TV analysts and baseball cognoscenti. Even though he has had slow starts over the last few years his only sub-par season, for him, was last year: 3.96 ERA, only 5% better than the park-adjusted league average, and a 16-11 record. With the Yankees Clemens registered one season with an ERA worse than average (1999-3% worse) and one about average (1% better in 2002). Maddux actually leads Clemens in career adjusted ERA: 143 to 140. I guess it's easy to overlook a pitcher who hasn't won twenty games in eleven seasons.

One thing that intrigues me about Maddux's career are the consistently low walk totals and the resulting low WHIPs. I was surprised when I looked it up that Maddux is just 35th in career WHIP (1.13), just ahead of some dude named Cy Young. Here are the top 20 in career WHIP (to three decimal places, min. 1000 IP):

NameWHIP
Addie Joss0.968
Ed Walsh1.000
Pedro Martinez1.013
John Ward1.044
Christy Mathewson1.059
Walter Johnson1.061
Mordecai Brown1.066
Charlie Sweeney1.067
Reb Russell1.080
Joe Wood1.085
Jim Devlin1.086
Jack Pfiester1.089
George Bradley1.089
Babe Adams1.092
Tommy Bond1.093
Juan Marichal1.101
Rube Waddell1.102
Dick Hall1.102
Larry Corcoran1.105
Deacon Phillippe1.105
Sandy Koufax1.106
Fred Glade1.107
Ed Morris1.108
Will White1.111
Chief Bender1.113

Or in other words, Pedro Martinez, Sandy Koufax, and a bunch of old guys. If you want a complete list, B-R.com has it here (based on walks plus hits per nine inning).

I didn't feel that this list was in actuality representative of the quality of the pitchers involved, but rather was a result of the era in which a pitcher pitched. Therefore, I set about to study a version of WHIP that was adjusted per league and era. I calculated the pitcher's actual walks and hits totals and then the expected walks/hits total based on the league's average WHIP for that season multiplied by the pitcher's innings. If one sums that across a pitcher's career, a more complete picture of how much better than average of the course of his career the pitcher actually was (at least at allowing walks and hits).

Maddux improves to ninth. Here are the top 25 (ranked by career walks and hits below expected, "BB+H B Exp"; Note: data through 2003, min. 1000 IP):

NameIPWHIPBB+H B ExpPer IPWLPCT
Cy Young7354.71.131756.380.239511316.618
Walter Johnson5914.71.061542.700.261417279.599
Kid Nichols5056.31.221137.010.225361208.634
Pete Alexander5190.01.121039.210.200373208.642
Don Sutton5282.31.14985.560.187324256.559
Tom Seaver4782.71.12979.280.205311205.603
Christy Mathewson4780.71.06969.410.203373188.665
Roger Clemens4278.71.18969.010.226310160.660
Greg Maddux3968.71.12920.230.232289163.639
Robin Roberts4688.71.17885.270.189286245.539
Warren Spahn5243.71.19875.040.167363245.597
Lefty Grove3940.71.28865.300.220300141.680
Carl Hubbell3590.31.17842.760.235253154.622
Pedro Martinez2079.01.01819.760.39416667.712
Tim Keefe5047.71.12816.400.162342225.603
Fergie Jenkins4500.71.14809.930.180284226.557
Mike Mussina2668.71.16733.230.275199110.644
Bert Blyleven4970.01.20723.700.146287250.534
Gaylord Perry5350.31.18720.500.135314265.542
Randy Johnson3122.31.18699.930.224230114.669
Juan Marichal3507.31.10670.540.191243142.631
Dennis Eckersley3285.71.16665.450.203197171.535
Curt Schilling2586.01.12665.160.257163117.582
John Clarkson4536.31.21654.400.144328178.648
Charley Radbourn4535.31.15652.040.144309195.613

That's a much better group of pitchers. However, the ceding is affected by how many innings a pitcher threw, since the totals are cumulative. Of course, ye olde-tyme pitchers threw many more innings per year. So I broke down the data based walks and hits below expectation per inning. Here are the results:

NameIPWHIPBB+H B ExpPer IPWLPCT
Pedro Martinez2079.01.01819.760.39416667.712
Mike Mussina2668.71.16733.230.275199110.644
Walter Johnson5914.71.061542.700.261417279.599
Curt Schilling2586.01.12665.160.257163117.582
Cy Young7354.71.131756.380.239511316.618
Bret Saberhagen2562.71.14608.240.237167117.588
Carl Hubbell3590.31.17842.760.235253154.622
Tiny Bonham1551.01.15360.600.23210372.589
Greg Maddux3968.71.12920.230.232289163.639
Roger Clemens4278.71.18969.010.226310160.660
Kid Nichols5056.31.221137.010.225361208.634
Randy Johnson3122.31.18699.930.224230114.669
Addie Joss2327.00.97519.530.22316097.623
Lefty Grove3940.71.28865.300.220300141.680
Ed Walsh2964.31.00647.350.218195126.607
Spud Chandler1485.01.21323.740.21810943.717
Dick Hall1259.71.10273.260.2179375.554
Babe Adams2995.31.09633.060.211194140.581
Tom Seaver4782.71.12979.280.205311205.603
Tim Hudson1052.01.21214.930.2048033.708
Hoyt Wilhelm2254.31.12457.210.203143122.540
Christy Mathewson4780.71.06969.410.203373188.665
Dennis Eckersley3285.71.16665.450.203197171.535
Harry Brecheen1907.71.19385.470.20213392.591
Pete Alexander5190.01.121039.210.200373208.642

Maddux is in a virtual tie for eighth all-time (with the legendary Tiny Bonham). He is, however, ahead of Clemens, but it is dang close. Of course, there are a number of modern players near the top, but they may drop as they age. Pedro Martinez is ridiculously ahead of the pack. It will be interesting to see how he ages and what it will do to his stats (and also if he decides to ever toss Don Zimmer again).

By the way, for those of you who don't remember Tiny Bonham except as maybe a name Bart Simpson used to prank Moe's Tavern, Bonham was a Yankee pitcher who was highly successful during World War II. He was one of the first to use a forkball successfully, wasn't tiny at all (6'2" 215), had chronic back problems that hurt his career more than the troops returning to the baseball field, and died from complications from an appendectomy only two weeks after his last game while with the Pirates (Thanks to Baseball-Library.com for the details). He was also a two-time All-Star who finished with an ERA 20 points better than the park-adjusted league average.

By the way, here are the worst pitchers of all time based on total walks plus hits above expected:

NameIPWHIPBB+H B ExpPer IPWLPCT
Bobby Witt2465.01.57-392.66-0.159142157.475
Mike Torrez3044.01.45-310.22-0.102185160.536
Jimmy Ring2354.31.49-281.63-0.120118149.442
Chick Fraser3356.01.43-272.75-0.081175212.452
George Mullin3686.71.29-270.84-0.073228196.538
Jimmy Haynes1185.71.62-237.11-0.2006386.423
Johnny Klippstein1967.71.47-232.03-0.118101118.461
Bill Bailey1084.31.44-222.63-0.2053876.333
Jamey Wright1055.71.60-221.99-0.2105169.425
Bruce Ruffin1268.01.51-219.64-0.1736082.423


And per inning:

NameIPWHIPBB+H B ExpPer IPWLPCT
Jamey Wright1055.71.60-221.99-0.2105169.425
Bill Bailey1084.31.44-222.63-0.2053876.333
Jimmy Haynes1185.71.62-237.11-0.2006386.423
Jesse Jefferson1085.71.54-191.47-0.1763981.325
Randy Lerch1099.31.51-193.77-0.1766064.484
Bruce Ruffin1268.01.51-219.64-0.1736082.423
Bill James1179.71.43-190.27-0.1616571.478
Bobby Witt2465.01.57-392.66-0.159142157.475
Happy Townsend1137.71.38-179.17-0.1573582.299
Turk Lown1032.01.52-160.72-0.1565561.474
Zeile-lot, II
2004-07-28 13:20
by Mike Carminati

The following is from the comments section of the original post. I thought it was too good to get lost in the comments:

Any pitchers with a career ERA of infinity (i.e. pitched once or so, gave up a run and no outs) ?

—Robert

It was done 13 times by the following men:

Lou Bauer
Fred Bruckbauer
Bill Childers
Vic Davalillo
Frank Dupee
Bill Ford
Doc Hamann
Will Koenigsmark
Mike Palagyi
Dave Pierson
Jim Schelle
Billy Sunday
Gordie Sundin

Davalillo is the last person to do it and he's the only one to pitch in two games. He faced four batters, two of which walked and two got hits. The most runs allowed without registering an out was 6 by Bill Childers (2 H, 6 BB, 3 WP) in 1895 and Doc Hamann (3 H, 3 BB, 1 HBP, 1 WP) in 1922.

There are also 15 pitchers with unresolved ERAs, meaning that they allowed no runs and did not retire a batter. Among them is Stan Musial, who faced one batter in 1952. Musial started his minor-league career as a pitcher but was forced to switch to a position player after an injury. Here's the account of the game from Baseball-Library.com:

September 29, 1952: Stan Musial makes his only ML pitching appearance. With his 6th batting title wrapped up, he takes the mound against the Cubs Frank Baumholtz, the runner-up in the batting race. Baumholtz, batting righthanded, reaches base on an error, and Harvey Haddix relieves Musial. The Cubs win 3-0 behind Paul Minner.

By the way, Musial and Larry Yount (Robin's brother) are the only two men to appear in a game as a pitcher without registering an out or giving up a hit, walk, or hit batsman. Yount actually never faced a batter. From Baseball Library:

September 15, 1971: At Houston, the Braves win, 4–2, as Aaron belts his 44th homer of the year. The RBI is his 1,954th, tying him with Ty Cobb for 3rd place on the all-time list. In the 9th inning, Larry Yount is announced as the new pitcher for Houston. While taking his warmup pitches, Yount injures his arm and must be replaced in what proves to be his only ML appearance. Larry's brother Robin Yount will begin a more successful ML career in 1974.

Joe "Fire" Cleary holds the highest career ERA for a pitcher who registered an out: 189.00 from 1/3 inning of work with the 1945 Senators in which he allowed 7 earned runs on five hits, 3 BBs, and one wild pitch. The league park-adjusted average ERA was 2.70 that year. His adjusted ERA is a 1.

Zeile-lot
2004-07-28 00:04
by Mike Carminati

Todd Zeile pitched for the second time in his career yesterday, mopping up for the Mets in their 19-10 loss to the Expos. He gave up five earned runs on four hits and two walks in one inning to up his career ERA from 0.00 to 22.50. Given that Zeile is 38 and his two appearances were flukes to begin with, we may have seen the last of Todd Zeile the pitcher.

However, Zeile's is not the worst performance ever for a cup-of-coffee pitcher. There eighteen worse (min. 2 appearances and 2 innings pitched), and some of them were actual pitchers. Here they are:

NameGWLIPERA
David Moraga4002.740.50
Keith Osik2002.040.50
Joe Nelson2002.036.00
Nellie Pott2002.031.50
Ray Peters2022.031.50
Roy Parker2002.031.50
Steve Dixon6005.028.80
Jim Brady6006.328.42
Bob Spicer4005.027.00
Bobby Herrera3002.327.00
Craig Reynolds2002.027.00
Dave Hill2002.327.00
Lew Brown2002.027.00
Tex Hoyle3002.327.00
Phil Stidham5004.324.92
Chad Hutchinson3004.024.75
Jason Pearson4002.723.63
Al Mahon3004.322.85
Carl Stimson2004.022.50
John Papa3002.022.50

It's good to see that Craig Reynolds and Keith Osik could lend their hand to sucking at multiple positions, one of which was pitcher. By the way, the worst on the list David Moraga was a pitcher by trade for the Expos and Rockies. His Expos ERA was 37.80, and his Rockie ERA was 45.00. The odd thing about Zeile is that his Rockie ERA was 0.00 and he recorded his only strikeout as a Rockie.

Jeriome Choked In the Jake Today
2004-07-27 23:51
by Mike Carminati

The Indians have designated Jeriome Robertson for reassignment today after his ERA rose to 12.21 for the season. As if that weren't enough opponents are batting .349 against him with five homers, and he has a 2.21 WHIP, a 3.86 strikeouts per nine innings, and a 0.67 strikeouts-to-walk ratio in his scant 14 innings of work. He has given up thirteen runs in his last three appearances comprising 4.1 total innings.

Last year, Robertson, then on the Astros, led all rookies with 15 wins despite a 5.10 ERA, which was 13% worse than the park-adjusted league average. After signing both Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte, Robertson became expendable. The 'Stros then shipped him to the Indians for minor-leaguers Luke Scott and Willy Taveras.

Robertson was supposed to become a staple of the Indians rotation. He started the season in the minors and didn't make a start in his eight appearances. He also stunk up the minors with a 4-5 record and a 7.27 ERA in 14 appearances at Buffalo. He also gave up 91 hits, 10 home runs, and 22 walks in 64-1/3 innings. Ouch!

Unless someone expresses interest in Robertson, he may get released and at best he will no longer be on the Indians' 40-man roster even if they keep him in the organization. Given his recent problems and the fact that the only real item in his resume that could recommend him to another team is winning 15 last year, which may be enough. However, it seems likely that this is the end of the line for Robertson.

That made me wonder how often a player had won 15 games and then never won more than one game (his total in 2004) over the rest of his career. It was actually done quite often in the nineteenth century when teams often had only one or two starters and they could quickly fall into disfavor and out of the league. Some of those were even quite well known: A.G. Spalding, George Van Haltren, Adonis Terry, and Hall-of-Famer Amos Rusie. There were 23 such nineteenth-century pitchers. However, it's just been done three times since 1934. Here are all of the pitchers from 1900 until today that fit the Robertson model:

NameYrWLERAPost WPost L
Snake Wiltse190215195.1303
Nixey Callahan190216143.6012
Bill Bernhard190616152.5404
Glenn Liebhardt190815162.2015
Harry Howell190818181.8911
Bob Ewing191016143.0001
Clint Rogge191517112.5512
Doc Crandall191521152.5912
Joe Wood19151551.4901
Dickie Kerr192119174.7201
Lee Meadows192719103.4011
Urban Shocker19271862.8400
Firpo Marberry19341554.5703
Tom Johnson19771673.1314
Milt Wilcox19841784.00111
Greg Hibbard199315113.9615
Who Wins?
2004-07-27 12:32
by Mike Carminati

Oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
Win us with honest trifles, to betray’s
In deepest consequence.

—"Dave" Banquo in William "Author" Shakespeare's Macbeth

To win by strategy is no less the role of a general than to win by arms.

—Julius "Matos" Caesar

The high sentiments always win in the end, the leaders who offer blood, toil, tears and sweat always get more out of their followers than those who offer safety and a good time. When it comes to the pinch, human beings are heroic.

—George "Bamberger" Orwell, who obviously never read the ending to his book 1984.

Wesley: Excuse me? Is this something we should all be talking about?

Angel: No... it was mostly... theoretical.

Spike: Look, if cavemen and astronauts got into a fight, who would win?

Wesley: You've been arguing for forty minutes about this. (thinks) Do the astronauts have weapons?

Spike, Angel: No. (in unison)

—(Anaheim) Angel

Winning, that's the point of the game. Even a Phils fan like myself knows that.

So which are the teams that win? Well, obviously teams with more talent win more often. However, how do you measure that? Is it more due to their offensive prowess or pitching skills and how to quantify that?

A team's winning percentage in one-run ballgames is often cited by analysts (right after telling you a certain batter is 2-for-6 with a homer off a certain pitcher, as if that has any meaning). Are there certain traits, like winning close ballgames, that winning teams display? Can one predict a team's success from how they perform under certain conditions like close ballgames?

OK, enough with the question. After being directed to Baseball Reference's situations splits page by my friend Gregor Gross, and after kvelling an appropriate amount of time, I attempted to address these issues.

For offensive stats, I used the yearly team batting ratios: average, on-base, slugging, and OPS. For pitching, the following stats were recorded each year for each team: ERA, WHIP (walks plus hits per innings pitched), Strikeout-to-walk ratio (K:BB), Strikeouts-per-nine-innings (K/9IP). Then all stats were adjusted for by dividing by the league average. Finally, they were each compared against the team winning percentage and then the correlation coefficient, or how well each set of data corresponds to winning percentage, was determined for each decade and for all-time. I also adjusted the batting and pitching stats by the team's home ballpark factor and re-ran the correlation.

Then, I took the situational winning percentage for a set of criteria and tried to see how well each correlated to overall winning percentage. Those situations, which I kind of picked out of a hat, were the team's yearly record in home games, road games, one-run games, games won by no more than three runs ("Save" games), low-scoring games (five or less total runs), high-scoring games (10 or more total runs), and games with a large margin of victory (five or more runs). I also took the runs scored for and against in the above situations and calculated the expected winning percentage to determine if that correlated to overall winning percentage better (using the 1.83-exponent Pythagorean formula).

So without further ado, here are the results such as they are:

Battting

DecadeBA ALOBP ALSLUG ALOPS AL
Total0.6740.7240.6890.735
1870s0.7920.7950.8020.805
1880s0.7400.7830.7100.755
1890s0.7470.7460.7120.759
1900s0.6840.7500.6890.754
1910s0.6070.6420.6530.686
1920s0.6690.7170.6950.739
1930s0.6350.6910.7180.735
1940s0.6980.7380.7090.759
1950s0.6530.7250.7210.771
1960s0.6050.6080.5900.627
1970s0.6370.7020.7060.754
1980s0.5090.6150.5950.655
1990s0.5040.6590.5630.644
2000s0.5480.6970.5760.642

Of course, as baseball matured batting average became less important to winning, but don’t tell Joe Morgan. Overall OPS correlates best to winning percentage, but in the 2000s OBP is beating OPS, which was a bit of a surprise.

Park-adjusted Batting

DecadeBA ALOBP ALSLUG ALOPS AL
Total0.6080.6420.6670.695
1870s0.7250.7260.7570.752
1880s0.6580.6800.6510.684
1890s0.5520.5240.5660.578
1900s0.5450.5960.6110.655
1910s0.5580.5830.6370.654
1920s0.6290.6580.7150.738
1930s0.5970.6520.7180.725
1940s0.5330.6290.6560.693
1950s0.6260.7460.7260.781
1960s0.5840.5750.6170.652
1970s0.6270.6670.7470.785
1980s0.5310.6080.6320.676
1990s0.5340.6000.6230.669
2000s0.5940.6410.6280.662

When you adjust for ballpark OPS does beat OBP. However, you'll notice that none of these correlations is very strong.

Pitching

[Note: negative correlation just means that as one goes down the other rises, but still expresses a correlation. E.g., as ERAs go down winning percentages tend to go up. Makes sense.]

DecadeERA ALWHIP ALK-BB ALK-9IP AL
Total-0.781-0.7610.4580.321
1870s-0.819-0.7590.0710.118
1880s-0.829-0.8390.4980.399
1890s-0.818-0.8340.5980.377
1900s-0.811-0.7790.5930.357
1910s-0.783-0.7530.5730.382
1920s-0.759-0.7400.6610.464
1930s-0.794-0.7580.7390.604
1940s-0.813-0.7590.6490.492
1950s-0.796-0.7600.6160.487
1960s-0.727-0.7050.5250.359
1970s-0.689-0.7220.558-0.010
1980s-0.657-0.6740.4840.195
1990s-0.663-0.6520.5550.355
2000s-0.764-0.7690.6060.443

ERA correlates best here overall, though WHIP has surpassed ERA in the 2000s. The strikeout ratios are gaining strength but still don't correlate very well.

Park-Adjusted Pitching

DecadeERA ALWHIP ALK-BB ALK-9IP AL
Total-0.782-0.7310.4630.334
1870s-0.811-0.7300.0710.119
1880s-0.835-0.8310.4800.365
1890s-0.816-0.8260.5860.344
1900s-0.818-0.7830.5870.358
1910s-0.769-0.7020.5880.426
1920s-0.745-0.6880.6720.497
1930s-0.786-0.7040.7540.633
1940s-0.816-0.7370.6580.509
1950s-0.794-0.6640.6510.553
1960s-0.738-0.6850.5330.399
1970s-0.707-0.7010.5740.030
1980s-0.644-0.6080.5060.240
1990s-0.674-0.6130.5630.377
2000s-0.789-0.7350.6090.445

ERA does surpass WHIP after the park adjustment, like OPS and OBP in batting.

Situational

DecadeHome Win%Home Exp Win%Road Win%Road Exp Win%
Total0.8970.8690.8970.866
1900s0.9130.8760.9290.900
1910s0.9180.8850.9150.896
1920s0.9230.9030.9260.903
1930s0.9360.9140.9320.900
1940s0.9060.8710.9000.903
1950s0.9020.8910.9080.872
1960s0.8870.8750.8840.852
1970s0.8920.8650.8560.812
1980s0.8500.8040.8620.798
1990s0.8510.8110.8560.822
2000s0.8860.8750.8970.855

Home and road records correlate equally well to winning percentage though for the last 25 years, road records have ruled. Also the expected home record beats out the road one. However, both of these are pretty strong correlations, which makes sense since they comprise about a half a season each.

DecadeOne-run Win%One-run Exp Win%Save Win%Save Exp Win%
Total0.6220.6220.8880.866
1900s0.7590.7550.9220.915
1910s0.7440.7280.9250.901
1920s0.6380.6380.8870.863
1930s0.5660.5610.9000.887
1940s0.5700.5650.8860.870
1950s0.5880.5920.8640.867
1960s0.6760.6660.9190.885
1970s0.5670.5470.8650.841
1980s0.6240.6150.8800.836
1990s0.5660.5730.8280.795
2000s0.5200.5320.8850.883

One-run record don't correlate well and are doing worse as time goes by. "Save" records, close games, do correlate fairly well, which is why, I guess, they came up with the concept of a save in the first place.

DecadeLow Scoring Win%Low Scoring Exp Win%High Scoring Win%High Scoring Exp Win%
Total0.6920.6940.8690.846
1900s0.7950.7940.9100.875
1910s0.8300.7950.8330.810
1920s0.6210.6050.9170.910
1930s0.7290.7370.9230.908
1940s0.7920.8320.9090.885
1950s0.6950.7230.8850.879
1960s0.7450.7320.8400.804
1970s0.6600.6570.8470.815
1980s0.6410.6020.7660.731
1990s0.5760.5720.8370.814
2000s0.5560.5650.8830.858

This one's odd: Low-scoring record don't correlate very well at all, but high-scoring correlates extremely well, better in fact than based on the expected winning percentage. Maybe the Rockies should take note.

DecadeLarge Margin Win%Large Margin Exp Win%
Total0.8620.851
1900s0.8930.887
1910s0.8620.847
1920s0.9180.903
1930s0.9060.900
1940s0.8910.881
1950s0.8650.872
1960s0.8620.846
1970s0.8400.827
1980s0.7730.749
1990s0.8040.801
2000s0.8630.865

Again, it looks like higher scoring affairs are better predictors of a team's success or at least correlate better to their winning percentage. Perhaps this is due to a low-scoring game being more based on the pitchers' performance than the teams as a whole.

Joe Morgan Chat Da(y) Ali G Show
2004-07-26 00:38
by Mike Carminati

Truth is one, but error proliferates. Man tracks it down and cuts it up into little pieces hoping to turn it into grains of truth. But the ultimate atom will always essentially be an error, a miscalculation.

—René "Johnny" Daumal

Truth is the silliest thing under the sun. Try to get a living by the Truth—and go to the Soup Societies. Heavens! Let any clergyman try to preach the Truth from its very stronghold, the pulpit, and they would ride him out of his church on his own pulpit bannister.

—Herman "Bob" Melville

You can't handle the truth.

—Jack "Don't Call Me Bill" Nicholson in A Few Good Men

Booyakasha!

Trufe! Yo, Check it out. Dis word be, aiii, somethin 'ardly 'eard today. Innit?

Me crew told me dat me main man Joe Morgan be da for real brainiest and most bestest mos' trufeful baseball bloke on da telly. But the geezers on the 'pooter be wonderin' wot he be bangin' on about all da time. Me man were part of da Big Red Machine, aiii, which were like da wicked robots wot been playin' wiv da Fresh Prince in da movies. Yo, obviously, dem robots be for real too smart fa us 'umans

Respek. West Side.

Da Wicked (Good)

Ali G: 'Ear me now, dis is. Mista Morgan. Big up to you.let's start wiv some questions from me boys.

Jake Fields (Los Angeles, CA): Do you think it is a waste of the Padres time and money to take a player like Finley who has at the most 2 years left in him?

If you are trying to win right now, it's not a waste. Right now is what everybody is looking at. If he can help them win a pennant, it's obviously not a waste.

Ali G: Yo, if da geezer going go bo in two years, he best be wiv dem padres. Aiii, they be tight wiv da old geezer. Ya know, da Jackie Chan, da main man's main man. Dem or da angel bruvers in dat Disney movie.

Nate (DC): Joe: I'm not familiar with baseball contracts from when you played, but what do think of the no trade clause that so many "average" players are including in contracts? Is this good/bad for baseball as a whole?

Well, it's something that they negotiate. In theory they are giving up something to get something. I don't understand why so many teams allow those clauses for ''average'' players. But once a guy has it, he has the right to exercise it.

Ali G: For real, way to support da bruvers. Dem wot's fought for diz right. Dey got it in da bit of paper and it be a bit thick to fink dey not gonna use it.

Matt (NY,NY): Joe, Mike Piazza said earlier in the week that he and Clemens had spoken in the trainer's room before the All-Star game about "personal stuff." Does anyone know what was said in that conversation? Any other All-Star game moments for us?

Idon't know exactly what was said, I'd like to hope that they did it privately so that there was NO one else there. They are both professionals. They will all do and say the right things at this time. But, make no mistake, Piazza will never like Clemens. If someone hits you in the head -- something that could end your career -- you're never going to like the guy. Anyone who thinks he should forgive Roger has never been hit in the head with a 90 mph fastball -- and I don't think Clemens expects him to. Roger has been in this game a long time. He knows what those types of situations do. I bet Willie Mays can remember who almost hit him in the head and I bet he doesn't talk to that person anymore. It's a serious situation. YOu can't expect them to be friends.

Ali G: For real. Once diz rank geezer acted all racialist, dissed me mam, and started a ruk down the boozer when we wuz yufes. Den me boys wuz in da house and he acted all respek. Now, he see me auto and me new westside turf and he wuz all spunkt wiv respek. But me don't dig it and I wuz all chill. But if he needed a bit of da 'erbal remedy and gimme a shout…But I digest.

The All-Star game for me was the Home Run Derby. When you have all the greatest living home run hitters in one park -- I mean, I had goose pimples watching them introduce these guys. I see them at the Hall of Fame, but I was still just in awe b/c this was just a different venue and the experience was just incredible with the all-time greats and active players. Wow. .... as far as the game itself -- it was a little anti-climactic to me. But the introductions and the derby, those were special to me.

Ali G: For real, when da most bestest batty boys, er not dem batty boys, in da house, itz like a speed garage selecta.

Rich (Columbus, OH): Hey Joe, can you give me a batter's standpoint on the difference between seeing a splitfinger fastball and a sinker? To me, they always seemed very similar pitches, and I wanted to know what they looked like from the eyes of a batter.

That's a good question. They are very similar. A sinker tumbles down. It starts to sink maybe 15 feet in front of the plate.. The split finger looks like a fast ball, it tumbles down and looks like it will stay straight but tumbles later in it's path -- maybe 10 feet from the plate.

Ali G: Word. Back in de UK, we wuz playing cricket which you call soccer here. Den dere's football which you call American football, not dat's ruggy or somebin. Anywayz, we call dem pitches all wicked googlies coz they be wicked and nobody be hittin' dem but da game lasts all day so who cares? We just go down da boozer and watch da highlights on da telly.

Da Wicked (Bad)

Carol (Dayton, OH): Joe: With that unique, strong delivery, did you find it difficult to hit Eckersley whenever you faced him?

I didn't face him that much. I was a leftie and he's a rightie. But the thing that made him so great was his control. That is always a great asset for a pitcher.

Ali G: Well nevramind dat him wuz a right. Dat Eck bloke, he nevra pitched, checkit, in da same league as u, Joe. Him wuz in da American League until 1984 and u wuz in the National League, wot aint American, must be like Canadian, until da same year. Den u blokes switched leagues. And dis wuz before the intraleague games, wot Bush, da main geezer, been trying to eliminate in the Constipation. Dat's a problem for blokes dat getting older and been too much down the boozer. But dat's what Bush wants to give da country like Lincoln did give America da town car.

Alec (Washington): What do you think about naming the new team the Grays?

I have no idea. They have to get them there first! Last I saw they are still trying to decide. It's amazing that it's taken this long to find a permanent home for this team.

Ali G: For real, dat name iz a shout out to me crew, da Homestead Grays wot played in Pittsburgh and DC back in da day. Dat wuz when baseball be all racialist so dat dey can sell does cool old hats to the bruvers. Like me got a Brooklyn Royal Giants jersey wiv black down one side and red down the ovver. Dem geezers wuzn't allowed to play in da majors but dey looked wicked.

Len, Liverpool PA: Joe...I think the balls were juiced for the HR derby at the all star game. The baseballs were going much to far. Do you agree?

I wouldn't be surprised if they were juiced. But the regular ball is already juiced. In the Derby, they may juice them. But I have no evidence.

Ali G: well, i know there's a 'erbal remedy problem in baseball, dat iz stairoids, but I didn't know it was wiv viagara. I iz not orange juicing me mr. biggy for a game, innit fa sure. Like dat Sammy Sosa, den I 'eard it broke. Innit mingin!

Bob (Tinley Park, IL): Joe, thanks for taking my question. It was mentioned during a recent ESPN telecast that Ron Santo may someday join the Hall of Fame, and I thought you were conspicously quiet after the statement. I suspect you don't necesarily agree. Should Santo be a HOF'er in your opinion or was he just a very good player? Thanks.

That's not true and I'm not sure what you mean. I think he belongs in. I'm on record for that. I even voted for him. Maury Wills should also be in.

Ali G: For real, Santo should be in. Innit me main man Bill James proof dat 'bundantly?

Maury Will, tho'. I don't know what dese old geezers be bangin' on about 'im. After 'e stole 100 bases in 1962, da stolen base per game average went down da next year. 'Is decade wuz da Sixties wiv the wicked Jimi guitar and da Bob Gibson 1.12 ERA.

Booyakasha, here be da decade, what I'm sayin', averages and percent change since da Fifties:

DecadelgIDSB/G% DiffCS/G% DiffSB%
1950sAL0.28776.451%0.22479.761%56.19%
1950sNL0.31391.249%0.190N/A62.21%
1960sAL0.409142.447%0.230102.658%64.02%
1960sNL0.429137.121%0.274144.073%61.04%
1970sAL0.609148.984%0.365159.067%62.50%
1970sNL0.633147.439%0.327119.281%65.95%
1980sAL0.656107.746%0.33290.964%66.38%
1980sNL0.900142.160%0.406124.191%68.92%
1990sAL0.678103.409%0.32999.098%67.32%
1990sNL0.77586.187%0.34585.010%69.21%
2000sAL0.60288.758%0.26379.922%69.59%
2000sNL0.56873.302%0.26677.182%68.10%

Note dat Wills did help bring back da stolen base by leading da NL in steals from 1960-65. Howebber, it increased more in da Seventies when he innit led da league in steals for five years already. B-sides, 'is career OPS wuz 12% worse den da park-adjusted league average, aiii. 'Is most similar batter, checkit, be Larry Bowa, mingin! And another on da list be Kid Gleason, a converted tosser, not dat he go down da boozer too oftun, but ratha he wuz da geeza who threw da ball.

The Deege (Champaign): Joe, what is your takeon Carlos Delgado and his protests of "God Bless America"?

People have a right to protest a war. I may not like the way they choose to do so but they have that right. I didn't like the way people spit on the troops coming back from Vietnam. But people have a right to protest, if it is peaceful. The National Anthem is the symbol of our country. I would have a problem if he doesn't stand for that.

Ali G: Respek. if da geeza digs to sin' "Jackie Chan bless America", why not? Back in da UK, we changed it to "Jackie Chan save da main bitch", but da meanin' is da same. For real. wot makes america special from de rainforests of Arizona to de deserts of Alaska is da right to protest wot da government does, dig like we can back in da uk and, oh yeah, france and mostest of europe. wait, Yous say he iz not singing da song. Maybe he iz tone def. No crime in dat. I don't dig dat song much eitha. Don't know why dey made two versions unless a selectra, y'know a DJ, mixed da lyrics of one song wiv da tunes from da udda. fa real

But wot does dis geezer, Delgado, 'ave to protest givun dat da island he was born on was bombed back to creation, da radioactive material is still dere. But dem's wuz Americans, so I guess dat is ok.

Sal (Westport): Mr. Morgan, do you think the Ortiz suspension of five games was fair or do you think it should have been a harsher punishment being that he threw two bats aiming right at the umpires?

I don't think he was aiming at the umpire. He was throwing them in that direction, but not trying to hit them. His andrenaline was flowing and he went too far. Five games is a lot of games, may not seem that way to fans though. When you are the hottest player on the team, that's a big penalty. The fans, his teammates, everyone is hurt by them. I'm in favor of less suspension time and bigger fines so it hurts the individual more than the fans.

Ali G: Wha'? He stuck 'is batty out on da field and it like hit dese two umpires, righ'? Checkit, if 'is batty be that large 'e mostest definitely need to git on da steroid master and like reduce a bit. Dey should not like suspend da geeza in mid-air. 'E'll just get fatta. For real.

Garth (NY): Barry Bonds swings one of the lightest bats in the league, as I understand. Why don't more players choose lighter bats for quicker bat speed, especially when some players are thought to have lost bat speed (like what I've heard about John Olerud)?

All the players use light bats now. Very few bats over 32 ounces now. Barry's bat is not that light, around 32, which is average. Sosa swings a little heavier. McGwire swung a light bat. Griffey is around 31. Soriano used the heaviest bat on the Yanks last season at 33.

Ali G: Check a smalla batty is betta.

Now, if da average bat is 32 ounces, 'ow can it be dat there is well few ova 32? It doesn't like make sense, Joe. And why u iz going around measuring batty iz beyond me compression.

Peter O'Neill (Albany): Joe, I'm only an hour away, so if you want to meet for lunch...but seriously, do you think closers after eck will have any luck geting into the Hall? Who do YOU think is worthy?

I think this sets the stage in a way. Eck was more than a closer though, he was also a good starter. I do see more closers getting in, although I'm not sure I like that. The way the save rule is now, there are a lot of soft saves. Three outs with a 3 run lead is a soft save. That doesn't display HOF credentials.

Ali G: Dat respek. The bruva gonna drive a hour to 'ave grub wiv Joe. Dat iz.

More closers getting in…Joe forgot dat the all-time mostest save-wickedest, checkit, pitcher, Lee Smif is on like the writers' ballot and he ain't got in yet. There be just three closers in da 'All, aiii, and I doesn’t check many today wiv a wicked chance of goin in except fa Mariano Rivera.

Chuck A. Hanover, Pa.: Minor rule change: With two out and TWO OUT only. Shouldn't a runner on first base be allowed to score on a ground rule double. He is running at the crack of the bat because he can't be doubled up. I remember espn's opening game about 7 years ago [the one with new Angel Mo Vaughn falling in the dugout and out for the year] and Joe Morgan on a drive over Buhner's head mentioning what I have heard a 100 times. "Well the Mariners got a break on that one as the Angel player would have scored easily". Thanks, Mr. Morgan!

You get the base you are going to plus one. He's not at second base yet, so I don't see that changing. No matter whether he is running or not, he's still at first.

Ali G: Chuck A? Is yous related to Chuck D? Tell im alo, big up.

No, Joe, da point is if it is a correct dig assumption dat he would 'ave scored. Like, wot if da ball would 'ave bounced right off da wall to a fielda wiv a strong arm who would ave 'eld da runna at third? Or maybe da runna would 'ave 'eld thinkin' dat da ball might get caught and only end up at second. Wot thun?

Utek (LA): Hi Joe. Adrian Beltre is having a monster season, despite playing on a bad ankle. I've heard an opposing coach say that he believes that the ankle injury has helped Beltre, in that it keeps him from lunging at pitches. What's your take? Have you ever heard of an injury that actually improved a player's performance?

I've heard people say things like that, keeping a guy from lunging. It can help in the short term, but you just don't want to play injured. It's tough enough to play this game at 100 percent, any kind of nagging injury to you feet or hands will hurt you. He is having a monster year and he should have been on the All-Star Team. That was a huge injustice.

Ali G: Right, dey shoul 'obble da players slightly to 'elp them play betta and to keep them from leavin' dig as a free asian.

As far as Beltre not bein on da All-Atar crew, Rolun did 'ave to start and it's a toss up betweun Beltre and Lowell fa da backup (19 win shares each)

jon (atlanta): I was thrilled to see the 500 club at this year's Home Run Derby! I was especially glad to see Hank front and center, where he belongs? Why do so many sportswriters (not you of course) overlook what a transcendant player Hank Aaron was? Does the 755 block out everything else?

I think you are correct. The 755 clouds over everything else. He didn't do things with a flair like Mays or Clemente. Hank just got the job done as well as everyone. Even his HRs weren't 500 ft. bombs. He just hit a HR and trotted around the bases. Nothing fancy. He did everything a player could possibly do, just without that special flair. He was just Hank doing his thing. I was as guilty as anyone when I talked about the great players. I wasn't as fair to him as I should have been early in my broadcast career.

Ali G: Right, Aaron iz so underrated, 'e's overrated. If yous don't think Aaron is overlooked, just ask 'im.

Eric (New York): With the addition of prospect David Wright, is this enough for the Mets to get to the top of the NL East?

At this point, the NL East is ready for someone to take it. I think all the teams need to add something before the deadlien to seperate from the pack. Florida has the makings of a good team if they can get another bat. I think whoever improves the most between now and August 1 will win the division. The Mets still need another player.

Ali G: 'Ope springs eternal, aiii. Didn't David Wright come up last year wiv da name Jose Reyes? Besides da mets need a starta, not a replacement fa Ty Wigginton. If dey move Wigginton to first, do dey for real dig Pizza to move back behind da plate afta naggin' 'im to like move to first fa ova a season?

I think whoever improves the most between now and August 1 will win the division… Me crew told me dat dey extended da season, right, and will play until octoba dis year.

Lee, Dallas TX: is there anything in particular you can point out as to why this season has backfired on the astros plans to contend this season? thanks.

I think in the past Jeff Bagwell was more important to the lineup than they thought. He was a rock in the middle of the lineup. He is not the same Bagwell anymore. Another reason is they had no other way to win other than hitting it out of the park.

They have a dysfunctional offense. I've never used that term before until now. They have a lot of double plays waiting to happen.

Ali G: Double plays? Dey is sixf in da NL wiv 79. Dey is as close to elevenf as dey is to third, which is to say dey is about average.

Bagwell is on da wrong side of thirty and 'is OPS 'as dropped every year since 1999. Probably a little more dis year, but consida he did 'ave just 17 westside runs and a .832 OPS in da first 'alf last year, and dey were bemoanin' 'is like demise evun as he ended up wiv 39 'omers and a .897 OPS.

Of course, Adam Everett's .311 OBP mostly in da numba two batty ain't 'elped da Astros offense dis season. And da batty, dat iz bottum, of da orda as bin a aminal (Morgan Ensberg .697 OPS and Brad Ausmus .606). It iz not dysfunctional to be not all dat wicked.

Tim (San Jose): What has happened to Barry Zito? I don't buy the theories about him missing Rick Peterson, he should be able to stand on his own two feet. Can he bounce back?

I'm always surprised with Zito doesn't pitch well and win games. I've said a million times if you are left-handed and can throw strikes you should win games. He has great stuff also so he should be a star. Some said he was tipping his pitches. Who knows. Some guys are more dependant on pitching coaches or hitting coaches than others. Coaches can have a big effect on a player.

Ali G: Maybe all da innings 'ave caught up wiv 'im. Maybe da severe drop off in strikeouts pa nine innings last year (from 8.61 in 2001 to 7.14 in 2002 to 5.67 in 2003) should 'ave bin a warnin' sign. He sure be givin' up da long ball dig neva before: 'is 19 dingers allowed so far in 2004 match 'is total last year.

Dusty Baker (Chicago): I can't help but think that I've lost control of this team. Should I start demanding they take responsibility for their actions on the field and stop blaming the other side? ( See the actions and my response to Zambrano and Hawkins during the two-game series with the Cards)

Major League players should always take responsibility for their actions on the field. Sometimes they dont' like it when I say they made a bad play, etc., but most players do take that responsibility.

Ali G: A wicked play is one fin'. Plunkin' batters and goin' buzzark on umpires is anotha. I don't if it's dis geezer Baker's fault but dis crew self-destructed against da Cardinals.

Scott (Sacramento, CA): Joe, assuming that the Yanke