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I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition (Cont.)
2005-02-22 01:22
Other entries in the Trade Series: Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade Here are the rest of the top fifty most lopsided trades. Meanwhile, Studes has an in-depth look at the Smoltz-for-Alexander trade, which clocks in at number thirty-seven. Finally, prior to continuing with the list I just want to clarify what the hex it is I'm trying to research here—from an email I sent to Studes: As far as the meaning of the slew d'stats, my thinking was that a trade is a snapshot in time. You have the players' past statistics to go on for the year (if midseason) and for their careers. Then the other side of the balance sheet is what the GMs don't know at the time, how well the players perform after the trade in the given season and over their careers. So there are four time periods to consider: the players' entire career before and after the trade and the players' stats for the season in which the trade was made (before and after). Then I looked at these time periods based on straight win shares and on win shares above baseline. I ranked them by career win share above baseline differential after the trade. All the stats listed per trade are based on the differentials in each category between what the team got and what they gave up. #11:Date: December 6, 1959 Trade: Cleveland gets Johnny Romano, Bubba Phillips, and Norm Cash from the White Sox for Don Ferrarese, Dick Brown, Minnie Minoso, and Jake Striker. Pre Career WS: -215 Post Career WS: 371 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 8 WSAB Pre Career: -140 WSAB Post Career: 198 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: -3
#12:Date: December 14, 1948 Trade: Cleveland gets Mickey Vernon and Early Wynn from Washington for Ed Klieman, Joe Haynes, and Eddie Robinson. Pre Career WS: 46 Post Career WS: 307 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 7 WSAB Pre Career: 38 WSAB Post Career: 197 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 5
#13:Date: January 27, 1982 Trade: The Cubs get Larry Bowa and Ryne Sandberg from the Phils for Ivan DeJesus. Pre Career WS: 80 Post Career WS: 339 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 8 WSAB Pre Career: 14 WSAB Post Career: 196 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 3
#14:Date: May 22, 1913 Trade: Cincinnati gets Heinie Groh, Red Ames, Josh Devore, and $20,000 from the Giants for Art Fromme and Eddie Grant. Pre Career WS: 46 Post Career WS: 332 Pre Year WS: 2 PostYearWS: 24 WSAB Pre Career: 35 WSAB Post Career: 190 WSAB Pre Yr: 2 WSAB Post Yr: 10
#15:Date: July 29, 1989 Trade: The White Sox get Scott Fletcher, Sammy Sosa, and Wilson Alvarez from Texas for Fred Manrique and Harold Baines. Pre Career WS: 46 Post Career WS: 332 Pre Year WS: 2 PostYearWS: 24 WSAB Pre Career: 35 WSAB Post Career: 190 WSAB Pre Yr: 2 WSAB Post Yr: 10
#16 (tied):Date: December 4, 1974 Trade: Baltimore gets Ken Singleton and Mike Torrez from Montreal for Dave McNally, Rich Coggins, and Bill Kirkpatrick. Pre Career WS: -63 Post Career WS: 327 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 49 WSAB Pre Career: -55 WSAB Post Career: 186 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 36
#16 (tied):Date: August 28, 1983 Trade: Cleveland gets three players to be named later (Rick Behenna, Brett Butler, and Brook Jacoby) and $150,000 from Atlanta for Len Barker. Pre Career WS: -33 Post Career WS: 385 Pre Year WS: -3 PostYearWS: 27 WSAB Pre Career: -15 WSAB Post Career: 186 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 9
#18 (tied):Date: January 9, 1918 Trade: Brooklyn gets Al Mamaux, Burleigh Grimes, and Chuck Ward from Pittsburgh for Casey Stengel and George Cutshaw. Pre Career WS: -112 Post Career WS: 194 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 4 WSAB Pre Career: -31 WSAB Post Career: 179 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 12
#18 (tied):Date: July 25, 1910 Trade: Cleveland gets Joe Jackson from the Athletics for Bris Lord. Pre Career WS: -25 Post Career WS: 248 Pre Year WS: -4 PostYearWS: -6 WSAB Pre Career: -3 WSAB Post Career: 179 WSAB Pre Yr: -3 WSAB Post Yr: -3
#20:Date: May 6, 1930 Trade: The Yankees get Red Ruffing from the Red Sox for Cedric Durst and $50,000. Pre Career WS: 47 Post Career WS: 262 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 13 WSAB Pre Career: 28 WSAB Post Career: 174 WSAB Pre Yr: 1 WSAB Post Yr: 9
#21 (tied):Date: June 15, 1964 Trade: St. Louis gets Lou Brock, Jack Spring, and Paul Toth from the Cubs for Bobby Shantz, Ernie Broglio and Doug Clemens. Pre Career WS: -187 Post Career WS: 298 Pre Year WS: -1 PostYearWS: 9 WSAB Pre Career: -114 WSAB Post Career: 166 WSAB Pre Yr: 4 WSAB Post Yr: 9
#21 (tied):Date: April 12, 1960 Trade: Detroit gets Norm Cash from Cleveland for Steve Demeter. Pre Career WS: 4 Post Career WS: 311 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 16 WSAB Pre Career: 0 WSAB Post Career: 166 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 6
#23:Date: December 11, 1917 Trade: The Cubs get Grover Cleveland Alexander and Bill Killefer from the Phillies for Mike Prendergast, Pickles Dillhoefer, and $55,000. Pre Career WS: 253 Post Career WS: 245 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -3 WSAB Pre Career: 185 WSAB Post Career: 164 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: -9
#24:Date: December 14, 1917 Trade: Red Sox get Amos Strunk, Joe Bush, and Wally Schang from the A's for Vean Gregg, Merlin Kopp, Pinch Thomas, and $60,000. Pre Career WS: 118 Post Career WS: 345 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 26 WSAB Pre Career: 35 WSAB Post Career: 163 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 16
Man, that was one bad week in Philly. #25:Date: March 30, 1992 Trade: White Sox sent Sammy Sosa and Ken Patterson to the Cubs for George Bell. Pre Career WS: -124 Post Career WS: 266 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -5 WSAB Pre Career: -70 WSAB Post Career: 160 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: -3
#27:Date: December 11, 1975 Trade: Yankees sent Doc Medich to Pittsburgh for Willie Randolph, Ken Brett, and Dock Ellis. Pre Career WS: 80 Post Career WS: 317 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 36 WSAB Pre Career: 26 WSAB Post Career: 155 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 20
#28:Date: December 12, 1903 Trade: Cardinals sent Mordecai Brown and Jack O'Neill to the Cubs for Jack Taylor and Larry McLean. Pre Career WS: -93 Post Career WS: 134 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -4 WSAB Pre Career: -71 WSAB Post Career: 153 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: -7
#29 (tie):Date: October 30, 1922 Trade: Detroit sent Babe Herman, Danny Clark, Howard Ehmke, Carl Holling, and $25000 cash to the Red Sox for Del Pratt and Rip Collins. Pre Career WS: -177 Post Career WS: 254 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 14 WSAB Pre Career: -93 WSAB Post Career: 152 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 19
#29 (tie):Date: October 19, 1949 Trade: The Philadelphia Athletics sent Nellie Fox to the White Sox for Joe Tipton. Pre Career WS: 0 Post Career WS: 269 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 0 WSAB Pre Career: 0 WSAB Post Career: 152 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 0
#31:Date: May 25, 1989 Trade: Montreal sent Randy Johnson, Gene Harris, and Brian Holman to Seattle for Mark Langston and a player to be named later (Mike Campbell). Pre Career WS: -73 Post Career WS: 194 Pre Year WS: -5 PostYearWS: 0 WSAB Pre Career: -49 WSAB Post Career: 149 WSAB Pre Yr: -3 WSAB Post Yr: -7
#32:Date: December 4, 1964 Trade: The Los Angeles Dodgers sent Frank Howard, Ken McMullen, Phil Ortega, Pete Richert and a player to be named later (Dick Nen) to Washington for Claude Osteen, John Kennedy, and $100 K. Pre Career WS: 53 Post Career WS: 308 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 54 WSAB Pre Career: 14 WSAB Post Career: 147 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 24
#33 (tie):Date: November 29, 1971 Trade: Cleveland sent Sam McDowell to San Francisco for Gaylord Perry and Frank Duffy. Pre Career WS: 0 Post Career WS: 257 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 44 WSAB Pre Career: 1 WSAB Post Career: 146 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 33
#33 (tie):Date: November 10, 1948 Trade: The White Sox sent Aaron Robinson to Detroit for Billy Pierce and $10 K. Pre Career WS: -45 Post Career WS: 214 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -6 WSAB Pre Career: -11 WSAB Post Career: 146 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: -2
#35:Date: July 20, 1916 Trade: The Giants sent Christy Mathewson, Bill McKechnie and Edd Roush to the Cincinnati Reds for Buck Herzog and Red Killefer. Pre Career WS: 342 Post Career WS: 259 Pre Year WS: -5 PostYearWS: 2 WSAB Pre Career: 303 WSAB Post Career: 142 WSAB Pre Yr: -5 WSAB Post Yr: -4
#36:Date: February 25, 1972 Trade: St. Louis sent Steve Carlton to Philadelphia for Rick Wise. Pre Career WS: 12 Post Career WS: 176 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 20 WSAB Pre Career: 10 WSAB Post Career: 141 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 20
#37:Date: August 12, 1987 Trade: Detroit sent John Smoltz to Atlanta for Doyle Alexander. Pre Career WS: -163 Post Career WS: 193 Pre Year WS: -6 PostYearWS: -12 WSAB Pre Career: -83 WSAB Post Career: 138 WSAB Pre Yr: -7 WSAB Post Yr: -5
#38:Date: March 26, 1992 Trade: Milwaukee sent Gary Sheffield and Geoff Kellogg to San Diego for Ricky Bones, Jose Valentin, and Matt Mieske.. Pre Career WS: 28 Post Career WS: 70 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 28 WSAB Pre Career: 10 WSAB Post Career: 136 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 22
#39:Date: December 2, 1927 Trade: Detroit sent Heinie Manush and Lu Blue to the St. Louis Browns for Chick Galloway, Elam Vangilder, and Harry Rice. Pre Career WS: -26 Post Career WS: 224 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 29 WSAB Pre Career: -14 WSAB Post Career: 135 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 27
#40 (tie):Date: April 2, 1992 Trade: Houston sent Curt Schilling to Philadelphia for Jason Grimsley. Pre Career WS: 6 Post Career WS: 155 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 17 WSAB Pre Career: 0 WSAB Post Career: 134 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 11
#40 (tie):Date: July 29, 1996 Trade: The Mets sent Jeff Kent and Jose Vizcaino to Cleveland for Carlos Baerga and Alvaro Espinoza.. Pre Career WS: -52 Post Career WS: 205 Pre Year WS: 11 PostYearWS: 4 WSAB Pre Career: -36 WSAB Post Career: 134 WSAB Pre Yr: 4 WSAB Post Yr: 1
#42:Date: April 3, 1974 Trade: Cleveland sent Pedro Guerrero to Los Angeles for Bruce Ellingsen Pre Career WS: 0 Post Career WS: 244 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -2 WSAB Pre Career: 0 WSAB Post Career: 133 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 0
#43:Date: December 3, 1936 Trade: Brooklyn sent Frenchy Bordagaray, Jimmy Jordan, and Dutch Leonard to the St. Louis Cardinals for Tom Winsett. Pre Career WS: 56 Post Career WS: 247 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 1 WSAB Pre Career: 10 WSAB Post Career: 128 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 0
#44:Date: April 5, 1972 Trade: The Mets sent Ken Singleton, Tim Foli, and Mike Jorgensen to Montreal for Rusty Staub. Pre Career WS: -169 Post Career WS: 316 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 25 WSAB Pre Career: -107 WSAB Post Career: 127 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 6
#45 (tie):Date: November 18, 1997 Trade: Tampa Bay sent Bobby Abreu to Philadelphia for Kevin Stocker. Pre Career WS: -46 Post Career WS: 141 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 21 WSAB Pre Career: -4 WSAB Post Career: 126 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 16
#45 (tie):Date: May 29, 1971 Trade: San Francisco sent George Foster to Cincinnati for Frank Duffy and Vern Geishert. Pre Career WS: 2 Post Career WS: 212 Pre Year WS: 2 PostYearWS: 10 WSAB Pre Career: 1 WSAB Post Career: 126 WSAB Pre Yr: 1 WSAB Post Yr: 1
#45 (tie):Date: June 13, 1938 Trade: Philadelphia sent Bucky Walters to Cincinnati for Spud Davis, Al Hollingsworth, and $50 K. Pre Career WS: -92 Post Career WS: 129 Pre Year WS: 3 PostYearWS: -1 WSAB Pre Career: -25 WSAB Post Career: 126 WSAB Pre Yr: 1 WSAB Post Yr: 3
#48 (tie):Date: December 15, 1920 Trade: The Red Sox sent Waite Hoyt, Harry Harper, Mike McNally, and Wally Schang to the Yankees for Muddy Ruel, Del Pratt, Sammy Vick, and Hank Thormahlen. Pre Career WS: -29 Post Career WS: 180 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 18 WSAB Pre Career: -31 WSAB Post Career: 124 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 17
#48 (tie):Date: December 2, 1937 Trade: The White Sox sent Dixie Walker, Vern Kennedy, and Tony Piet to Detroit for Marv Owen, Mike Tresh, and Gee Walker. Pre Career WS: -11 Post Career WS: 123 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: 3 WSAB Pre Career: 5 WSAB Post Career: 124 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 7
#50:Date: February 26, 1957 Trade: The Giants sent Hoyt Wilhelm to St. Louis for Whitey Lockman. Pre Career WS: -86 Post Career WS: 186 Pre Year WS: 0 PostYearWS: -2 WSAB Pre Career: -20 WSAB Post Career: 123 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 0
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