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Un-A-Lloyd Failure—McClendon's Run With The Pirates one of the Worst of All Time
2005-07-21 12:24
by Mike Carminati

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Lloyd McClendon may soon be fired after his Pirates got swept in a four-game series with the Astros at home while being outscored 34-8 (or 8.5 to 2 per game). Pittsburgh is now 40-55 with a .421, 21-1/2 games out of first and just a half-game ahead of lowly Cincy. It is especially galling after the Pirates reached .500 a little over a month ago (June 11) to go 10-25 ever since.

Of course, McClendon will be the first one to tell you that the reports of his demise are highly exaggerated, at least so far:

"Hell, I've been getting fired for five years. And you know what? One day, I will be fired. In this job and, if I'm lucky enough, I'll be fired two or three times. That's the nature of this business. You can't worry about those things. If I start worrying about those things, then I'm not concentrating on doing my job."

Ah, it makes me pine for the halcyon days of Larry Bowa.

Anyway, even though McClendon's little exposition on the nature of managing is pretty accurate—he's been on the verge of being fired seemingly since day one—it leaves me with a few unanswered questions.

First, how lucky would McClendon have to land another managerial post after his team's poor showing in the last five years. The Pirates 321-420 or a .433 winning percentage under McClendon's stewardship. They have finished no higher than fourth and no closer to first than thirteen games and have been as far as 32-1/2 games out.

The second question Lloyd's speech left me with was how bad was his five-year managerial stint in Pittsburgh. How often does a man get five seasons to turn a team around and manager to do nothing in those five years? (Which reminds me: how long has Bush been in the White House anyway?)

My final Lloyd-inspired question is if thinking about getting fired would cause McClendon to lose his concentration and prevent him from doing his job, would anyone be able to tell the difference?

But I digress…How bad has McClendon's tenure with the Pirates been. Survey says…

I took a look at all managers who led a particular franchise for at least five years (or parts of five seasons to be more precise) and ranked them inversely by the results. McClendon is not the worst, but he's up there (Note that I list them by franchise, not team. Rogers Hornsby never managed the O's but he did manage the Browns who eventually became the O's):

MgrFranchise# YrsFirstLastWLPCT
Zack TaylorBaltimore Orioles519461951235410.364
Jimmie WilsonPhiladelphia Phillies519341938280477.370
Rogers HornsbyBaltimore Orioles619331952255381.401
Burt ShottonPhiladelphia Phillies619281933370549.403
Joe TorreNew York Mets519771981286420.405
Billy MeyerPittsburgh Pirates519481952317452.412
Cookie LavagettoMinnesota Twins619571961271384.414
Gil HodgesTexas Rangers519631967321444.420
Tony MuserKansas City Royals619972002317431.424
Billy GardnerMinnesota Twins519811985268353.432
Casey StengelAtlanta Braves619381943373491.432
Lloyd McClendonPittsburgh Pirates520012005321420.433

So after looking at this, I am left with an ironic reaction. Even though I may laugh, Lloyd may get another shot—it's not as if failure in an extended trial as manager prevented a number of these men from managing again (Tony Muser notwithstanding). Torre, Shotton, Stengel, and Hodges all had their share of managerial success in the future. Torre actually managed two teams to sub-.500 record over the course of at least five seasons (the Mets and Braves) before achieving legendary status with the Yankees. He's one of four managers to lead multiple teams to losing record for at least five seasons (the others being Bill Rigney, Bucky Harris, and Gene Mauch, who did it three times).

Even though the likelihood of McClendon resurfacing as a manager in another organization is low, it's not unprecedented. And he is a former backup catcher, which, I have said on multiple occasions is the most important criterion used in choosing new managers nowadays.

Because I love lists, here is the extended version of the losing manager table with everyone up to Connie Mack:

MgrFranchise# YrsFirstLastWLPCT
Zack TaylorBaltimore Orioles519461951235410.364
Jimmie WilsonPhiladelphia Phillies519341938280477.370
Rogers HornsbyBaltimore Orioles619331952255381.401
Burt ShottonPhiladelphia Phillies619281933370549.403
Joe TorreNew York Mets519771981286420.405
Billy MeyerPittsburgh Pirates519481952317452.412
Cookie LavagettoMinnesota Twins619571961271384.414
Gil HodgesTexas Rangers519631967321444.420
Tony MuserKansas City Royals619972002317431.424
Billy GardnerMinnesota Twins519811985268353.432
Casey StengelAtlanta Braves619381943373491.432
Lloyd McClendonPittsburgh Pirates520012005321420.433
Pat CorralesCleveland Indians519831987280355.441
Gene MauchMontreal Expos719691975499627.443
Buck RodgersAnaheim Angels519911994140173.447
Ralph HoukDetroit Tigers519741978363443.450
Miller HugginsSt. Louis Cardinals519131917346415.455
Bill McKechnieAtlanta Braves819301937560666.457
Billy BarnieBaltimore Orioles918831891470548.462
Jimmy McAleerBaltimore Orioles819021909551632.466
Mel OttSan Francisco Giants719421948464530.467
Bill RigneyAnaheim Angels919611969625707.469
Jim RigglemanChicago Cubs519951999374419.472
Phil GarnerMilwaukee Brewers819921999563617.477
Tom KellyMinnesota Twins161986200111401244.478
Eddie SawyerPhiladelphia Phillies819481960390423.480
Bucky HarrisDetroit Tigers719291956516557.481
Horace PhillipsPittsburgh Pirates618841889294316.482
Jim FregosiPhiladelphia Phillies619911996431463.482
Art HoweHouston Astros519891993392418.484
Don BaylorColorado Rockies619931998440469.484
Connie MackOakland Athletics501901195035823814.484
Comments
2005-07-21 12:58:41
1.   Mike Carminati
By the way, Mel Ott was the recipient of the famous "Nice guys, finish last" comment.

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