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Lee Even Stevens, Part II—The Sexy Version
2005-02-25 12:40
by Mike Carminati

Other entries in the Trade Series:

Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades

A Quick One (Happy Mike)

I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition

I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition (Cont.)

Lee Even Stevens

Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade

Smoltz for Alexander

OK, I wasn't satisfied with the first go-round. Let's go with something more straightforward. How about we just rank the trades by how well the players performed after the trade (i.e., Total Post WSAB):

#1:


Date: May 2, 1975
Trade: The Cubs sent Burt Hooton to Los Angeles for Geoff Zahn and Eddie Solomon.
Pre Career WS Diff: 31 (favoring LA)
Post Career WS Diff: 13 (Chi)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 15 (LA)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 21 (LA)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 1 (LA)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 1 (LA)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 10 (LA)
Overall Avg Diff: 11.5
Post Avg Diff: 9.8
Total Post WSAB: 125
WSDiff: 14

Now that's what I'm talking about. Hooton and Zahn were pretty productive pitchers swapped for each other before they turned 30. However, Hooton was the more productive of the two. Solomon had a few decent years later on. Hooton went from 0-2, 8.18 in Chicago to 18-7, 2.82. Zahn and Solomon were a bust in Chicago, but they both turned their careers around, Zahn in Minnesota and Solomon in Pittsburgh.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
LANHooton391250172163110
CHNSolomon134000800
CHNZahn71040205400

#2:


Date: April 7, 1979
Trade: The Dodgers sent Rick Rhoden to Pittsburgh for Jerry Reuss.
Pre Career WS Diff: 45 (favoring LA)
Post Career WS Diff: 6 (Pit)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 7 (LA)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 21 (LA)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (LA)
Overall Avg Diff: 10.0
Post Avg Diff: 3.5
Total Post WSAB: 112
WSDiff: 6

This one's even better. Both of these pitchers were productive for their new teams for years, who were traded before turning 30. Rhoden was four years younger but was about as productive over the rest of his career.

TranIDPlayerToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
2071reusj001LANReuss8810607405601
2071rhodr001PITRhoden4311200195600

#3:


Date: May 26, 1959
Trade: The Yankees sent Jerry Lumpe, Johnny Kucks, and Tom Sturdivant to the Kansas City A's for Ralph Terry and Hector Lopez.
Pre Career WS Diff: 9 (favoring NYY)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (NYY)
Pre Year WS Diff: 6 (NYY)
Post Year WS Diff: 2 (NYY)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 4 (NYY)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 9 (NYY)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 2 (NYY)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 7 (NYY)
Overall Avg Diff: 5.1
Post Avg Diff: 5.0
Total Post WSAB: 105
WSDiff: 11

This is odd: one of the Yankee-KC A's deals from the era in which the latter was basically the former's Quad-A team. Lumpe was the reason the trade "worked". He had been a poor defensive player from the left side of the infield. The A's moved him to second and he had relatively productive career. Terry was the most productive player on the Yankee side of the equation after being exiled for seasoning to KC.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
KCAKucks298088202
KCASturdivant36300218800
NYALopez6670614221528
NYATerry21841684201
KCALumpe131141803800

#4:


Date: December 11, 1935
Trade: The Yankees sent Johnny Allen to Cleveland for Monte Pearson and Steve Sundra.
Pre Career WS Diff: 3 (favoring Clev)
Post Career WS Diff: 9 (NYY)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 5 (Clev)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 3 (NYY)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 4 (Clev)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 5 (Clev)
Overall Avg Diff: 3.6
Post Avg Diff: 5.8
Total Post WSAB: 102
WSDiff: 13

Allen won 20 games and Pearson won 19 the year after the trade.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYASundra0470001500
NYAPearson40640202234014
CLEAllen431020251953019

#5:


Date: December 6, 1989
Trade: The Mets sent Randy Myers and Kip Gross to Cincinnati for John Franco and Don Brown.
Pre Career WS Diff: 52 (favoring NYM)
Post Career WS Diff: 1 (Cin)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 6 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 37 (NYM)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 7 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 6 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 13.6
Post Avg Diff: 5.0
Total Post WSAB: 83
WSDiff: 8

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYNBrown00000000
NYNFranco8597011553806
CINGross08000000
CINMyers33900171845012

#6:


Date: June 5, 1932
Trade: The Red Sox sent Danny MacFayden to the New York Yankees for Ivy Andrews, Hank Johnson, and $50K.
Pre Career WS Diff: 35 (favoring NYY)
Post Career WS Diff: 8 (Bos)
Pre Year WS Diff: 2 (Bos)
Post Year WS Diff: 4 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 28 (NYY)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 3 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 5 (Bos)
Overall Avg Diff: 10.6
Post Avg Diff: 5.0
Total Post WSAB: 81
WSDiff: 11

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSJohnson29181010400
BOSAndrews57131013816
NYAMacFayden698126393911

#7:


Date: November 18, 1963
Trade: Kansas City sent Jerry Lumpe, Ed Rakow and Dave Wickersham to Detroit for Rocky Colavito, Bob Anderson, and $50K.
Pre Career WS Diff: 87 (favoring KC)
Post Career WS Diff: 1 (Det)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 15 (Det)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 70 (KC)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 11 (KC)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 4 (Det)
Overall Avg Diff: 23.5
Post Avg Diff: 7.8
Total Post WSAB: 65
WSDiff: 12

What's the deal with Jerry Lumpe? Colavito was the big player here, but he stayed in KC for only one year.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
KCAAnderson3800010000
KCAColavito1898402210838012
DETLumpe913601330803
DETRakow258089303
DETWickersham2441016916010

#8:


Date: December 20, 1933
Trade: Washington sent Goose Goslin to Detroit for John Stone.
Pre Career WS Diff: 216 (favoring Det)
Post Career WS Diff: 10 (Was)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 8 (Det)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 142 (Det)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 8 (Det)
Overall Avg Diff: 48.0
Post Avg Diff: 6.5
Total Post WSAB: 64
WSDiff: 10

Gooslin was 32 but had just three full seasons left in his tank. Stone was five years younger but had just four seasons, productive ones, in Washington.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
DETGoslin2896602216832012
WASStone7376014263204

#9:


Date: December 8, 1948
Trade: Pittsburgh sent Frankie Gustine and Cal McLish to the Cubs for Clyde McCullough and Cliff Chambers.
Pre Career WS Diff: 50 (favoring Chi)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Chi)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 19 (Pit)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 13 (Chi)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 13 (Chi)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 8 (Pit)
Overall Avg Diff: 13.1
Post Avg Diff: 10.5
Total Post WSAB: 55
WSDiff: 15

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHNGustine9930320000
PITMcCullough4636087000
PITChambers34601402108
CHNMcLish0810003400

#10:


Date: August 28, 1916
Trade: The Cubs sent Mickey Doolan and Heinie Zimmerman to the Giants for Larry Doyle, Herb Hunter, and Merwin Jacobson.
Pre Career WS Diff: 89 (favoring NYG)
Post Career WS Diff: 8 (Chi)
Pre Year WS Diff: 4 (Chi)
Post Year WS Diff: 4 (NYG)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 5 (Chi)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 4 (Chi)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (NYG)
Overall Avg Diff: 14.4
Post Avg Diff: 3.3
Total Post WSAB: 54
WSDiff: 8

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHNHunter00000000
CHNJacobson05000000
NYGDoolan15561246000
NYGZimmerman15559134772752
CHNDoyle221681821282791

#11:


Date: December 10, 1952
Trade: The White Sox sent Chuck Stobbs to Washington for Mike Fornieles.
Pre Career WS Diff: 34 (favoring WAS)
Post Career WS Diff: 9 (Chi)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (WAS)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 14 (WAS)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 4 (Chi)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 0
Overall Avg Diff: 7.8
Post Avg Diff: 3.5
Total Post WSAB: 54
WSDiff: 13

Stobbs for Fornieles? Now, that's sexy.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
WASStobbs3762010142504
CHAFornieles3710902904

#12:


Date: July 19, 2000
Trade: Texas sent Esteban Loaiza to Toronto for Darwin Cubillan and Michael Young.
Pre Career WS Diff: 37 (favoring Tor)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Tor)
Pre Year WS Diff: 5 (Tor)
Post Year WS Diff: 7 (Tor)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 8 (Tor)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 2 (Tex)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 1 (Tor)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 5 (Tor)
Overall Avg Diff: 8.4
Post Avg Diff: 4.0
Total Post WSAB: 50
WSDiff: 4

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
TEXCubillan02000000
TORLoaiza37425782415
TEXYoung0380002600

#13:


Date: December 19, 1985
Trade: Cincinnati sent Dann Bilardello, Andy McGaffigan, John Stuper, and Jay Tibbs to Montreal for Bill Gullickson and Sal Butera.
Pre Career WS Diff: 5 (Favoring Cin)
Post Career WS Diff: 1 (Cin)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 2 (Mon)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 15 (Cin)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 1 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 3.1
Post Avg Diff: 1.3
Total Post WSAB: 49
WSDiff: 2

Catchers Butera and Bilardello was a wash. As for the pitchers, Stuper was done. McGaffigan and Tibbs together were about the same as Gullickson.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONBilardello148020000
CINButera96040000
CINGullickson63630162725010
MONMcGaffigan144401302308
MONStuper210006000
MONTibbs1816076101

#14:

Date: October 24, 1973 Trade: Kansas City sent Dick Drago to the Red Sox for Marty Pattin. Pre Career WS Diff: 0 Post Career WS Diff: 7 (Bos) Pre Year WS Diff: 0 Post Year WS Diff: 8 (Bos) WSAB Pre Career Diff: 1 (KC) WSAB Post Career Diff: 6 (Bos) WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0 WSAB Post Yr Diff: 7 (Bos) Overall Avg Diff: 3.6 Post Avg Diff: 7.0 Total Post WSAB: 44 WSDiff: 13
ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSDrago6160013312507
KCAPattin615305321900

#15:


Date: August 29, 1990
Trade: Oakland sent Felix Jose, Daryl Green, and Stan Royer to St. Louis for Willie McGee.
Pre Career WS Diff: 136 (favoring Oak)
Post Career WS Diff: 8 (Oak)
Pre Year WS Diff: 6 (Oak)
Post Year WS Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 62 (Oak)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 4 (StL)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 5 (Oak)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (Oak)
Overall Avg Diff: 27.8
Post Avg Diff: 3.3
Total Post WSAB: 40
WSDiff: 12

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SLNGreen00000000
SLNJose136312342241
OAKMcGee14975183661892
SLNRoyer04000000
Lee Even Stevens
2005-02-24 12:07
by Mike Carminati

Other entries in the Trade Series:

Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades

A Quick One (Happy Mike)

I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition

I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition (Cont.)

Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade

Smoltz for Alexander

Russell Ziskey: "Can I have your last beer?"

John Winger (flatly): "No."

Russell (upbeat): "We'll split it!"

—From the incomparable Stripes

[I was going to call it "Tit For Tat" but "The Man" wouldn't let me. Ever since that Janet Jackson thing…]

After looking at the most lopsided trades of all time, I thought it would be interesting to take a look at the most even. At the moment of consummation trades are often evaluated as a "win" for both sides, but how many actually have been?

In looking at the data, there are thousands (2452 actually) of trades in which the balance sheet evens out for both teams (i.e., that the Win Shares Above Baseline differential is zero). However, in the vast majority of these trades both teams received players who had very little value over the rest of their careers. They are even trades, but they are not exactly "wins" for any of the teams involved.

We need to filter the data based on the total WSAB after the trade for all of players involved. Also, given that the WSAB varies according to role, what we really need is a way to combine the WSAB differential with straight Win Shares amassed after the trade. Summing the two won't work since sometimes the two will cancel each other out if one is negative and the other positive. We need to measure the total differential (i.e., via absolute values). In that way, every post-trade Win Share is worth one point, but those in the WSAB stat count for two. Let's call this WSDiff.

I set the thresholds for the two derived stats at a minimum of 10 WSAB in total after the trade and a maximum WSDiff at 15. I got 188 records back, which would translate into 94 two-way trades.

But how to rank them after that? I next created a new derived stat, Post WS Avg, that takes the average of all the post-trade Win Share differentials (actually, of their absolute values). That is, the ones for career Win Shares, single-season Win Shares, career WSAB, and single-season WSAB.

Anyway, the trades in which the teams experienced as close to the same performance level during the remainder of the given season and over the rest of the players' careers would be considered even trades.

Without further ado, here they are (ranked by Post Avg Diff):

#1:


Date: May 19, 1970
Trade: San Francisco sent Frank Linzy to St. Louis for Jerry Johnson.
Pre Career WS Diff: 51 (favoring STL)
Post Career WS Diff: 0
Pre Year WS Diff: 2 (SF)
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (STL)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 37 (STL)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 3 (SF)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 0
Overall Avg Diff: 11.8
Post Avg Diff: 1
Total Post WSAB: 11
WSDiff: 3

One middle of the road reliever for another. Johnson had a very good year in 1971 as the Giants won the division. Linzy best years were later on.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SFNJohnson1124230700
SLNLinzy62240437400

#2:


Date: December 19, 1985
Trade: Cincinnati sent Dann Bilardello, Andy McGaffigan, John Stuper, and Jay Tibbs to Montreal for Bill Gullickson and Sal Butera.
Pre Career WS Diff: 5 (Favoring Cin)
Post Career WS Diff: 1 (Cin)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 2 (Mon)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 15 (Cin)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 1 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 3.1
Post Avg Diff: 1.3
Total Post WSAB: 49
WSDiff: 2

Catchers Butera and Bilardello was a wash. As for the pitchers, Stuper was done. McGaffigan and Tibbs together were about the same as Gullickson.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONBilardello148020000
CINButera96040000
CINGullickson63630162725010
MONMcGaffigan144401302308
MONStuper210006000
MONTibbs1816076101

#3:


Date: April 4, 2001
Trade: Milwaukee sent Juan Acevedo, Kane Davis, and Jose Flores to Colorado for Mark Leiter, Mike DeJean, and Elvis Pena.
Pre Career WS Diff: 48 (favoring Milw)
Post Career WS Diff: 3 (Milw)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 2 (Milw)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 13 (Milw)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 3 (Milw)
Overall Avg Diff: 8.6
Post Avg Diff: 2.0
Total Post WSAB: 14
WSDiff: 3

This one's still to early to call. However, DeJean is about the only one that was very active in the majors last season.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
COLAcevedo2617049700
COLDavis05050000
MILDeJean2022086703
COLFlores00000000
MILLeiter5420216000
MILPena01010000

#4:


Date: July 23, 1990
Trade: Atlanta sent Joe "Leave it to" Boever to the Philadelphia for "Starvin'" Marvin Freeman.
Pre Career WS Diff: 12 (favoring Phil)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Phil)
Pre Year WS Diff: 2 (Phil)
Post Year WS Diff: 5 (Phil)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 5 (Phil)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 2 (Phil)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (Phil)
Overall Avg Diff: 3.8
Post Avg Diff: 2.3
Total Post WSAB: 16
WSDiff: 2

Here's another reliever swap. Boever was veteran middle reliever and Freeman was a failed young starter, who become one of the Braves first middle relief reclamation projects.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHIBoever1435275822
ATLFreeman233020800

#5 (tie):


Date: July 11, 2002
Trade: Montreal sent Carl Pavano, Graeme Lloyd, Mike Mordecai, Justin Wayne, and a player to be named later (Donald Levinski) to Florida for Cliff Floyd, Wilton Guerrero, Claudio Vargas, and cash.
Pre Career WS Diff: 64 (favoring Mon)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Mon)
Pre Year WS Diff: 17 (Mon)
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (Fla)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 34 (Mon)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 3 (Fla)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 7 (Mon)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 5 (Mon)
Overall Avg Diff: 16.6
Post Avg Diff: 2.8
Total Post WSAB: 31
WSDiff: 5

Again, still too early. However, given that Montreal cashed in Floyd in 19 days for two pitchers that haven't yet done much for them, this one will not be remembered as a win for the Expos/Nationals.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONVargas00000000
FLOLevinski00000000
MONFloyd11120175401475
MONGuerrero290100000
FLOLloyd393114000
FLOMordecai203020000
FLOPavano17120321700
FLOWayne00000000

#5 (tie):


Date: August 26, 1987
Trade: Cincinnati sent Bill Gullickson to the Yankees for Dennis Rasmussen.
Pre Career WS Diff: 53 (favoring NYY)
Post Career WS Diff: 4 (NYY)
Pre Year WS Diff: 2 (Cin)
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 27 (NYY)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 5 (NYY)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 2 (Cin)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 11.9
Post Avg Diff: 2.8
Total Post WSAB: 21
WSDiff: 9

What's the deal with Bill Gullickson and these deals anyway? I guess mediocrity breeds mediocrity.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYAGullickson854162391320
CINRasmussen32378312841

#5 (tie):


Date: December 6, 1959
Trade: The Cubs sent Lee Walls, Bill Henry, and Lou Jackson to Cincinnati for Frank Thomas.
Pre Career WS Diff: 22 (favoring Chi)
Post Career WS Diff: 1 (Cin)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 3 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 17 (Chi)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 4 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 3 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 6.3
Post Avg Diff: 2.8
Total Post WSAB: 20
WSDiff: 5

Here's a three-for-one swap that "worked".

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CINJackson00000000
CINWalls49120314000
CINHenry434408161203
CHNThomas114550847800

#5 (tie):


Date: December 17, 1995
Trade: Baltimore sent Joe Borowski and Rachaad Stewart to Atlanta for Kent Mercker.
Pre Career WS Diff: 41 (favoring Balt)
Post Career WS Diff: 4 (Balt)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 10 (Balt)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 7 (Atl)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 0
Overall Avg Diff: 7.8
Post Avg Diff: 2.8
Total Post WSAB: 17
WSDiff: 11

Borowski did OK for the Braves, but his career year came much later.

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
ATLBorowski1250101200
BALMercker42290110500
ATLStewart00000000

#5 (tie):


Date: February 13, 1986
Trade: The White Sox sent Ron Hassey, Chris Alvarez, Eric Schmidt, and Matt Winters to the Yankees for Neil Allen, Scott Bradley, Glen Braxton, and cash.
Pre Career WS Diff: 24 (favoring NYY)
Post Career WS Diff: 7 (Sox)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 0
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 1 (Sox)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 2 (NYY)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (NYY)
Overall Avg Diff: 4.5
Post Avg Diff: 2.8
Total Post WSAB: 10
WSDiff: 9

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHAAllen50160818402
CHABradley033060000
NYAAlvarez00000000
NYASchmidt00000000
CHABraxton00000000
NYAHassey744101417604
NYAWinters01000000

#10 (tie):


Date: June 10, 1907
Trade: Phillies sent Johnny Lush to the Cardinals for Buster Brown (and his shoes).
Pre Career WS Diff: 15 (favoring StL)
Post Career WS Diff: 8 (Phil)
Pre Year WS Diff: 2 (StL)
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (StL)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 5 (StL)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 2 (Phil)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 2 (StL)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (StL)
Overall Avg Diff: 4.5
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 34
WSDiff: 10

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SLNLush3640310141634
PHIBrown21481991813

#10 (tie):


Date: July 31, 2001
Trade: Boston sent Tomo Ohka and Rich Rundles to Montreal for Ugueth Urbina.
Pre Career WS Diff: 51 (favoring Bos)
Post Career WS Diff: 3 (Bos)
Pre Year WS Diff: 6 (Bos)
Post Year WS Diff: 3 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 32 (Bos)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 4 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 4 (Bos)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (Bos)
Overall Avg Diff: 13.1
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 32
WSDiff: 7

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONOhka6280201400
MONRundles00000000
BOSUrbina573165321842

#10 (tie):


Date: July 11, 1992
Trade: Pittsburgh sent Steve Buechele to the Cubs for Danny Jackson.
Pre Career WS Diff: 11 (favoring Chi)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Pit)
Pre Year WS Diff: 8 (Chi)
Post Year WS Diff: 1 (Chi)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 18 (Pit)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 7 (Pit)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 3 (Chi)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (Chi)
Overall Avg Diff: 6.5
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 19
WSDiff: 9

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHNBuechele872910523632
PITJackson763124411300

#10 (tie):


Date: July 22, 1960
Trade: Washington sent Bill Fischer to Detroit for Tom Morgan.
Pre Career WS Diff: 36 (favoring Was)
Post Career WS Diff: 2 (Det)
Pre Year WS Diff: 1 (Det)
Post Year WS Diff: 4 (Det)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 6 (Was)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 5 (Was)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 1 (Det)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 1 (Det)
Overall Avg Diff: 7.0
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 17
WSDiff: 7

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
WASMorgan542211111100
DETFischer1824255611

#10 (tie):


Date: June 1, 1910
Trade: Pittsburgh sent Sam Frock to the Boston Doves for Kirby White.
Pre Career WS Diff: 6 (favoring Pit)
Post Career WS Diff: 4 (Bos)
Pre Year WS Diff: 3 (Pit)
Post Year WS Diff: 4 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 1 (Pit)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 2 (Bos)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 1 (Pit)
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (Bos)
Overall Avg Diff: 2.9
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 14
WSDiff: 6

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PITWhite9103101616
BSNFrock3140140808

#10 (tie):


Date: April 1, 1982
Trade: Cincinnati sent Jeff Lahti and Jose Brito to St. Louis for Bob Shirley.
Pre Career WS Diff: 35 (favoring Cin)
Post Career WS Diff: 5 (Cin)
Pre Year WS Diff: 0
Post Year WS Diff: 4 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Career Diff: 10 (Cin)
WSAB Post Career Diff: 1 (Cin)
WSAB Pre Yr Diff: 0
WSAB Post Yr Diff: 2 (Cin)
Overall Avg Diff: 7.1
Post Avg Diff: 3.0
Total Post WSAB: 13
WSDiff: 6

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SLNBrito00000000
SLNLahti024030600
CINShirley35290710702
I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition (Cont.)
2005-02-22 01:22
by Mike Carminati

Other entries in the Trade Series:

Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades

A Quick One (Happy Mike)

I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition

Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade

Smoltz for Alexander

Here are the rest of the top fifty most lopsided trades.

Meanwhile, Studes has an in-depth look at the Smoltz-for-Alexander trade, which clocks in at number thirty-seven.

Finally, prior to continuing with the list I just want to clarify what the hex it is I'm trying to research here—from an email I sent to Studes:

As far as the meaning of the slew d'stats, my thinking was that a trade is a snapshot in time. You have the players' past statistics to go on for the year (if midseason) and for their careers. Then the other side of the balance sheet is what the GMs don't know at the time, how well the players perform after the trade in the given season and over their careers. So there are four time periods to consider: the players' entire career before and after the trade and the players' stats for the season in which the trade was made (before and after). Then I looked at these time periods based on straight win shares and on win shares above baseline. I ranked them by career win share above baseline differential after the trade.

All the stats listed per trade are based on the differentials in each category between what the team got and what they gave up.

#11:


Date: December 6, 1959
Trade: Cleveland gets Johnny Romano, Bubba Phillips, and Norm Cash from the White Sox for Don Ferrarese, Dick Brown, Minnie Minoso, and Jake Striker.
Pre Career WS: -215
Post Career WS: 371
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 8
WSAB Pre Career: -140
WSAB Post Career: 198
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: -3

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHAStriker10000000
CHAFerrarese1413000300
CLEPhillips3532024200
CHABrown1338010100
CHAMinoso2344902414423014
CLERomano812801505705
CLECash4311016016606

#12:


Date: December 14, 1948
Trade: Cleveland gets Mickey Vernon and Early Wynn from Washington for Ed Klieman, Joe Haynes, and Eddie Robinson.
Pre Career WS: 46
Post Career WS: 307
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 7
WSAB Pre Career: 38
WSAB Post Career: 197
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 5

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
WS1Klieman3340412000
WS1Haynes8260037000
WS1Robinson2010701804208
CLEVernon1151810215584011
CLEWynn66243083215502

#13:


Date: January 27, 1982
Trade: The Cubs get Larry Bowa and Ryne Sandberg from the Phils for Ivan DeJesus.
Pre Career WS: 80
Post Career WS: 339
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 8
WSAB Pre Career: 14
WSAB Post Career: 196
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 3

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHNBowa151280538300
PHIDeJesus713501424604
CHNSandberg0346017019907

#14:


Date: May 22, 1913
Trade: Cincinnati gets Heinie Groh, Red Ames, Josh Devore, and $20,000 from the Giants for Art Fromme and Eddie Grant.
Pre Career WS: 46
Post Career WS: 332
Pre Year WS: 2
PostYearWS: 24
WSAB Pre Career: 35
WSAB Post Career: 190
WSAB Pre Yr: 2
WSAB Post Yr: 10

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CINDevore4790517000
NYGGrant65101016000
NYGFromme59141529300
CINAmes12177411634527
CINGroh2270013014803

#15:

Date: July 29, 1989 Trade: The White Sox get Scott Fletcher, Sammy Sosa, and Wilson Alvarez from Texas for Fred Manrique and Harold Baines. Pre Career WS: 46 Post Career WS: 332 Pre Year WS: 2 PostYearWS: 24 WSAB Pre Career: 35 WSAB Post Career: 190 WSAB Pre Yr: 2 WSAB Post Yr: 10
ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHAAlvarez0990004600
TEXBaines173134162743753
CHAFletcher886046271400
TEXManrique238762121
CHASosa029502016600

#16 (tied):


Date: December 4, 1974
Trade: Baltimore gets Ken Singleton and Mike Torrez from Montreal for Dave McNally, Rich Coggins, and Bill Kirkpatrick.
Pre Career WS: -63
Post Career WS: 327
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 49
WSAB Pre Career: -55
WSAB Post Career: 186
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 36

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONKirkpatrick00000000
MONCoggins272026000
MONMcNally167101102000
BALSingleton7822403333134023
BALTorrez531060192052013

#16 (tied):

Date: August 28, 1983 Trade: Cleveland gets three players to be named later (Rick Behenna, Brett Butler, and Brook Jacoby) and $150,000 from Atlanta for Len Barker. Pre Career WS: -33 Post Career WS: 385 Pre Year WS: -3 PostYearWS: 27 WSAB Pre Career: -15 WSAB Post Career: 186 WSAB Pre Yr: 0 WSAB Post Yr: 9
ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
ATLBarker5795121000
CLEBehenna21210000
CLEButler22273019614409
CLEJacoby01200804200

#18 (tied):


Date: January 9, 1918
Trade: Brooklyn gets Al Mamaux, Burleigh Grimes, and Chuck Ward from Pittsburgh for Casey Stengel and George Cutshaw.
Pre Career WS: -112
Post Career WS: 194
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 4
WSAB Pre Career: -31
WSAB Post Career: 179
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 12

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BROWard75000000
BROMamaux463700291700
PITCutshaw8258017241107
PITStengel897004361500
BROGrimes62800250188019

#18 (tied):


Date: July 25, 1910
Trade: Cleveland gets Joe Jackson from the Athletics for Bris Lord.
Pre Career WS: -25
Post Career WS: 248
Pre Year WS: -4
PostYearWS: -6
WSAB Pre Career: -3
WSAB Post Career: 179
WSAB Pre Yr: -3
WSAB Post Yr: -3

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHALord254641231533
CLEJackson029406019400

#20:


Date: May 6, 1930
Trade: The Yankees get Red Ruffing from the Red Sox for Cedric Durst and $50,000.
Pre Career WS: 47
Post Career WS: 262
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 13
WSAB Pre Career: 28
WSAB Post Career: 174
WSAB Pre Yr: 1
WSAB Post Yr: 9

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSDurst103030000
NYARuffing572650162817419

#21 (tied):


Date: June 15, 1964
Trade: St. Louis gets Lou Brock, Jack Spring, and Paul Toth from the Cubs for Bobby Shantz, Ernie Broglio and Doug Clemens.
Pre Career WS: -187
Post Career WS: 298
Pre Year WS: -1
PostYearWS: 9
WSAB Pre Career: -114
WSAB Post Career: 166
WSAB Pre Yr: 4
WSAB Post Yr: 9

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SLNBrock2832042210168511
CHNBroglio7864546212
CHNClemens314150000
CHNShantz15631380000
SLNSpring111100000
SLNToth110002000

#21 (tied):


Date: April 12, 1960
Trade: Detroit gets Norm Cash from Cleveland for Steve Demeter.
Pre Career WS: 4
Post Career WS: 311
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 16
WSAB Pre Career: 0
WSAB Post Career: 166
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 6

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CLEDemeter00000000
DETCash4311016016606

#23:


Date: December 11, 1917
Trade: The Cubs get Grover Cleveland Alexander and Bill Killefer from the Phillies for Mike Prendergast, Pickles Dillhoefer, and $55,000.
Pre Career WS: 253
Post Career WS: 245
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -3
WSAB Pre Career: 185
WSAB Post Career: 164
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: -9

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHIDillhoefer210000000
PHIPrendergast381501516909
CHNKillefer55320105300
CHNAlexander2382380219617000

#24:


Date: December 14, 1917
Trade: Red Sox get Amos Strunk, Joe Bush, and Wally Schang from the A's for Vean Gregg, Merlin Kopp, Pinch Thomas, and $60,000.
Pre Career WS: 118
Post Career WS: 345
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 26
WSAB Pre Career: 35
WSAB Post Career: 163
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 16

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHAThomas324021000
PHAKopp111080000
PHAGregg881501156505
BOSStrunk1245001653806
BOSBush3915602113106015
BOSSchang76169010265400

Man, that was one bad week in Philly.

#25:


Date: March 30, 1992
Trade: White Sox sent Sammy Sosa and Ken Patterson to the Cubs for George Bell.
Pre Career WS: -124
Post Career WS: 266
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -5
WSAB Pre Career: -70
WSAB Post Career: 160
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: -3

#26:


Date: December 3, 1969
Trade: Mets sent Amos Otis and Bob Johnson to the Kansas City Royals for Joe Foy.
Pre Career WS: -68
Post Career WS: 305
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 29
WSAB Pre Career: -30
WSAB Post Career: 157
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 23

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHABell1571401373303
CHNPatterson144010000
CHNSosa1927607316300
ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYMFoy701401030000
KCAJohnson13401401108
KCAOtis12850250146015

#27:


Date: December 11, 1975
Trade: Yankees sent Doc Medich to Pittsburgh for Willie Randolph, Ken Brett, and Dock Ellis.
Pre Career WS: 80
Post Career WS: 317
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 36
WSAB Pre Career: 26
WSAB Post Career: 155
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 20

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYABrett5030014251008
NYAEllis7936013331807
PITMedich506008321802
NYARandolph1311017014507

#28:


Date: December 12, 1903
Trade: Cardinals sent Mordecai Brown and Jack O'Neill to the Cubs for Jack Taylor and Larry McLean.
Pre Career WS: -93
Post Career WS: 134
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -4
WSAB Pre Career: -71
WSAB Post Career: 153
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: -7

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHNO'Neill79030000
SLNTaylor112710277749021
SLNMcLean0730001000
CHNBrown122690206212014

#29 (tie):


Date: October 30, 1922
Trade: Detroit sent Babe Herman, Danny Clark, Howard Ehmke, Carl Holling, and $25000 cash to the Red Sox for Del Pratt and Rip Collins.
Pre Career WS: -177
Post Career WS: 254
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 14
WSAB Pre Career: -93
WSAB Post Career: 152
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 19

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSHolling50000000
BOSHerman023200012000
BOSClark511000000
DETPratt2222009112100
DETCollins337502173200
BOSEhmke681060253665019

#29 (tie):


Date: October 19, 1949
Trade: The Philadelphia Athletics sent Nellie Fox to the White Sox for Joe Tipton.
Pre Career WS: 0
Post Career WS: 269
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 0
WSAB Pre Career: 0
WSAB Post Career: 152
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 0

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHATipton629050000
CHAFox629805015200

#31:


Date: May 25, 1989
Trade: Montreal sent Randy Johnson, Gene Harris, and Brian Holman to Seattle for Mark Langston and a player to be named later (Mike Campbell).
Pre Career WS: -73
Post Career WS: 194
Pre Year WS: -5
PostYearWS: 0
WSAB Pre Career: -49
WSAB Post Career: 149
WSAB Pre Yr: -3
WSAB Post Yr: -7

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONCampbell32000000
SEAHarris012000300
SEAHolman53201011313
SEAJohnson225905019000
MONLangston771075155057410

#32:


Date: December 4, 1964
Trade: The Los Angeles Dodgers sent Frank Howard, Ken McMullen, Phil Ortega, Pete Richert and a player to be named later (Dick Nen) to Washington for Claude Osteen, John Kennedy, and $100 K.
Pre Career WS: 53
Post Career WS: 308
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 54
WSAB Pre Career: 14
WSAB Post Career: 147
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 24

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
WASHoward8321402534129015
LANKennedy731010000
WASMcMullen6169021076011
WASNen015070000
WASOrtega4260401000
LANOsteen401610182095012
WASRichert776016027010

#33 (tie):


Date: November 29, 1971
Trade: Cleveland sent Sam McDowell to San Francisco for Gaylord Perry and Frank Duffy.
Pre Career WS: 0
Post Career WS: 257
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 44
WSAB Pre Career: 1
WSAB Post Career: 146
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 33

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CLEDuffy054090300
SFNMcDowell1541204104000
CLEPerry154215039105143033

#33 (tie):


Date: November 10, 1948
Trade: The White Sox sent Aaron Robinson to Detroit for Billy Pierce and $10 K.
Pre Career WS: -45
Post Career WS: 214
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -6
WSAB Pre Career: -11
WSAB Post Career: 146
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: -2

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
DETRobinson473201511805
CHAPierce224609015403

#35:


Date: July 20, 1916
Trade: The Giants sent Christy Mathewson, Bill McKechnie and Edd Roush to the Cincinnati Reds for Buck Herzog and Red Killefer.
Pre Career WS: 342
Post Career WS: 259
Pre Year WS: -5
PostYearWS: 2
WSAB Pre Career: 303
WSAB Post Career: 142
WSAB Pre Yr: -5
WSAB Post Yr: -4

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYGKillefer400508000
CINMathewson425131333000
CINMcKechnie52205217300
NYGHerzog12348811511054
CINRoush282860101214900

#36:


Date: February 25, 1972
Trade: St. Louis sent Steve Carlton to Philadelphia for Rick Wise.
Pre Career WS: 12
Post Career WS: 176
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 20
WSAB Pre Career: 10
WSAB Post Career: 141
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 20

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHICarlton8328304048194034
SLNWise711070203853014

#37:


Date: August 12, 1987
Trade: Detroit sent John Smoltz to Atlanta for Doyle Alexander.
Pre Career WS: -163
Post Career WS: 193
Pre Year WS: -6
PostYearWS: -12
WSAB Pre Career: -83
WSAB Post Career: 138
WSAB Pre Yr: -7
WSAB Post Yr: -5

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
DETAlexander16329612831075
ATLSmoltz022200014800

#38:


Date: March 26, 1992
Trade: Milwaukee sent Gary Sheffield and Geoff Kellogg to San Diego for Ricky Bones, Jose Valentin, and Matt Mieske..
Pre Career WS: 28
Post Career WS: 70
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 28
WSAB Pre Career: 10
WSAB Post Career: 136
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 22

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MILBones1550401600
SDNKellogg00000000
MILMieske032000000
SDNSheffield2930803210209022
MILValentin01510005700

#39:


Date: December 2, 1927
Trade: Detroit sent Heinie Manush and Lu Blue to the St. Louis Browns for Chick Galloway, Elam Vangilder, and Harry Rice.
Pre Career WS: -26
Post Career WS: 224
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 29
WSAB Pre Career: -14
WSAB Post Career: 135
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 27

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
DETGalloway6830312000
DETVangilder931101152606
DETRice5357015211405
SLABlue111870234242013
SLAManush7720803529113025

#40 (tie):


Date: April 2, 1992
Trade: Houston sent Curt Schilling to Philadelphia for Jason Grimsley.
Pre Career WS: 6
Post Career WS: 155
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 17
WSAB Pre Career: 0
WSAB Post Career: 134
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 11

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
HOUGrimsley437000600
PHISchilling101920170140011

#40 (tie):


Date: July 29, 1996
Trade: The Mets sent Jeff Kent and Jose Vizcaino to Cleveland for Carlos Baerga and Alvaro Espinoza..
Pre Career WS: -52
Post Career WS: 205
Pre Year WS: 11
PostYearWS: 4
WSAB Pre Career: -36
WSAB Post Career: 134
WSAB Pre Yr: 4
WSAB Post Yr: 1

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYNBaerga124326060100
NYNEspinoza434133000
CLEKent60186831312610
CLEVizcaino555510414931

#42:


Date: April 3, 1974
Trade: Cleveland sent Pedro Guerrero to Los Angeles for Bruce Ellingsen
Pre Career WS: 0
Post Career WS: 244
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -2
WSAB Pre Career: 0
WSAB Post Career: 133
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 0

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CLEEllingsen02020000
LANGuerrero024600013300

#43:


Date: December 3, 1936
Trade: Brooklyn sent Frenchy Bordagaray, Jimmy Jordan, and Dutch Leonard to the St. Louis Cardinals for Tom Winsett.
Pre Career WS: 56
Post Career WS: 247
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 1
WSAB Pre Career: 10
WSAB Post Career: 128
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 0

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SLNJordan150000000
BROWinsett38070000
SLNBordagaray2145081500
SLNLeonard2321000912300

#44:


Date: April 5, 1972
Trade: The Mets sent Ken Singleton, Tim Foli, and Mike Jorgensen to Montreal for Rusty Staub.
Pre Career WS: -169
Post Career WS: 316
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 25
WSAB Pre Career: -107
WSAB Post Career: 127
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 6

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
MONFoli4103090900
MONJorgensen49201001300
MONSingleton16286018116608
NYNStaub1931650121086102

#45 (tie):


Date: November 18, 1997
Trade: Tampa Bay sent Bobby Abreu to Philadelphia for Kevin Stocker.
Pre Career WS: -46
Post Career WS: 141
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 21
WSAB Pre Career: -4
WSAB Post Career: 126
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 16

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHIAbreu61590260126016
TBAStocker5218054000

#45 (tie):


Date: May 29, 1971
Trade: San Francisco sent George Foster to Cincinnati for Frank Duffy and Vern Geishert.
Pre Career WS: 2
Post Career WS: 212
Pre Year WS: 2
PostYearWS: 10
WSAB Pre Career: 1
WSAB Post Career: 126
WSAB Pre Yr: 1
WSAB Post Yr: 1

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
SFNDuffy054000300
CINFoster3266210112911
SFNGeishert10000000

#45 (tie):


Date: June 13, 1938
Trade: Philadelphia sent Bucky Walters to Cincinnati for Spud Davis, Al Hollingsworth,
and $50 K.
Pre Career WS: -92
Post Career WS: 129
Pre Year WS: 3
PostYearWS: -1
WSAB Pre Career: -25
WSAB Post Career: 126
WSAB Pre Yr: 1
WSAB Post Yr: 3

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHIDavis118310233400
PHIHollingsworth284408111711
CINWalters54204391914724

#48 (tie):


Date: December 15, 1920
Trade: The Red Sox sent Waite Hoyt, Harry Harper, Mike McNally, and Wally Schang to the Yankees for Muddy Ruel, Del Pratt, Sammy Vick, and Hank Thormahlen.
Pre Career WS: -29
Post Career WS: 180
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 18
WSAB Pre Career: -31
WSAB Post Career: 124
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 17

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSVick120000000
BOSThormahlen3040412000
NYAHarper6540429000
NYAMcNally910050000
BOSPratt183590209320010
NYASchang1251200204535010
BOSRuel1214401104701
NYAHoyt92530240156018

#48 (tie):


Date: December 2, 1937
Trade: The White Sox sent Dixie Walker, Vern Kennedy, and Tony Piet to Detroit for Marv Owen, Mike Tresh, and Gee Walker.
Pre Career WS: -11
Post Career WS: 123
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 3
WSAB Pre Career: 5
WSAB Post Career: 124
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 7

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHATresh080010700
DETPiet7110114000
CHAOwen711401219202
DETKennedy4857013281807
CHAG. Walker9385012291502
DETD. Walker342440141113004

#50:


Date: February 26, 1957
Trade: The Giants sent Hoyt Wilhelm to St. Louis for Whitey Lockman.
Pre Career WS: -86
Post Career WS: 186
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: -2
WSAB Pre Career: -20
WSAB Post Career: 123
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 0

ToTeamLastPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
NYGLockman145110754000
SLNWilhelm59197053412300
I'll Take Manhattan: Baseball's Most Lopsided Trades, Revised Edition
2005-02-21 01:49
by Mike Carminati

Other entries in the Trade Series:

Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades

A Quick One (Happy Mike)

Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade

This article has been revised and expanded after Studes and I revised our methodology and resolved all outstanding data issues. I've added a slew of stats: career win shares before and after the trade, the single-season win shares before and after the trade, and the career and single-season win shares above baseline (WSAB) before and after the trade. The trades are ranked by career WSAB after the trade. I also made sure to incorporate all of the trades mentioned in the first go-round. So here goes:

#1:


Date: December 15, 1900
Trade: New York Giants sent Amos Rusie to Cincinnati for Christy Mathewson
Pre Career WS: -293
Post Career WS: 426
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 21
WSAB Pre Career: -239
WSAB Post Career: 333
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 15

This wasn't so much a trade as a gimmick to sell the team, but I have to go by the official record.

Then-Cincinnati owner John T. Brush started with the old Indianapolis NL club, but this club folded and his investment was transferred to the Giants as the NL tried to consolidate its base during the Players League wars. He was rewarded with ownership of the Reds in the resulting twelve-team NL. It's unclear if he ever relinquished his Giant ownership. However, had he kept it while owning the Reds, he wouldn't have been the only owner at that time to do so.

Apparently, in the negotiating process Brush demanded Mathewson from Giant controlling owner Andrew Freedman. In exchange, the Reds got Rusie, a future Hall of Famer who had missed two straight seasons at the time. Rusie had torn his shoulder muscles in a throw to first and never was able to recuperate. He was actually retired at the time of the trade. Oddly, Rusie had followed Brush from Indianapolis to New York back in 1889-1890.

Rusie would go on to pitch just three games, very poorly (including a 14-3 debut), for the Reds and then called it a career. That was more than one could have expected when he was traded. Mathewson did pretty well for the Giants. Rusie would return more than two decades later as the superintendent of the Polo Grounds. Mathewson would be traded back to Cincinnati in 1916 and he would pitch his last game with the Reds, the only game he pitched for them.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CINRusie293000239000
NYGMathewson04260210333015

#2:


Date: January 10, 1991
Trade: Houston sent Glenn Davis to Baltimore for Steve Finley, Curt Schilling, and Pete Harnisch
Pre Career WS: -92
Post Career WS: 525
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 35
WSAB Pre Career: -58
WSAB Post Career: 310
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 18

This is the ultimate cautionary tale for GMs who want to nab a star by giving up the farm, or at least all the farmhands.

The Orioles had grown tired of Randy Milligan's inconsistency at the plate and salivated at the idea of injecting power into their lineup via Davis. Being a seven-year veteran in the cavernous Astrodome, Davis was still able to collect thirty home runs in three seasons. The Orioles expected that to translate into 40 or 50 in Memorial Stadium, and they wanted to generate fan interest as they prepared to move into Camden Yards in 1992.

They were coming off a disappointing 1990 season (76-85) after making great strides the previous season (from a catastrophic 54-107 record in 1988 to 87-75, in second place, just two games behind the Blue Jays in 1989). One more star could right their course.

Meanwhile, the Astros had fallen into fifth place in 1990 (75-87) and were looking to rebuild. They had a young Craig Biggio behind the plate and just about to bloom into an All-Star. In August they stripped the Red Sox of a minor-league Jeff Bagwell for 15 games from Larry Andersen. With then-third baseman Bagwell in tow, the Astros felt that Davis, a free agent at year's end, was expendable.

The Astros plucked Steve Finley, who was a regular for the O's in 1990 (though he played no more than 73 games in any of the three outfield positions), eleven-game winner Pete Harnisch, and a young reliever and would-be closer, Curt Schilling, from the Oriole roster. All would be between 24 and 26 years old in 1991, and all had at least one major-league season under his belt.

Harnisch would be an All-Star in 1991 and would be a reliable starter for the 'Stros over the next three years. Finley would be inserted in center field and even though he hit just three home runs in 464 at-bats in 1990, he would eventually become the power hitter he's known to be today. Unfortunately for the Astros he would never hit more than 11 for them in his four seasons in Houston. He would then be traded to the Padres on December 28, 1994 in their monster 11-man deal. Schilling would spent one year in the Astro pen and then after a trade to the Phils for Jason Grimsley at the end of spring training in 1992, he would finally become a starter. The Astros collected the most lopsided bounty in trade history and they failed to unearth the best of it.

Meanwhile, Davis would hit just 24 home runs and play 185 games over the next three seasons in Baltimore. After playing at least 150 games a season from 1986 to 1989, Davis at age 29 would never play more than 106 in a season.

Here’s a comparison between the two sides in the deal:

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BALDavis120120459000
HOUFinley13250018012908
HOUHarnisch1090016141010
HOUSchilling519705014000

#3:


Date: December 5, 1988
Trade: Texas sent Curtis Wilkerson, Paul Kilgus, Mitch Williams, Steve Wilson and two minor leaguers (Luis Benitez and Pablo Delgado) to the Cubs for Rafael Palmeiro, Jamie Moyer, and Drew Hall.
Pre Career WS: -17
Post Career WS: 413
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 1
WSAB Pre Career: 0
WSAB Post Career: 251
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 0

What do you need Rafael Palmeiro when you have Mark Grace? Palmeiro was a singles-hitting left fielder. Pete O'Brien had been the Rangers first baseman in 1988, but signed after the season with Seattle as a free agent. The Rangers desperate for first baseman traded a boatload of young players including 12-game winner Kilgus and young would-be closer Williams. Wilkerson was a weak-hitting middle infielder that the Cubs mistakenly tried to convert to third. Moyer is now a two-time twenty-game winner but he was coming off a 9-15 year in Chicago and would go just 6-15 in two seasons with the Rangers.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
TEXHall15040000
CHNKilgus159034000
CHNBenitez00000000
TEXMoyer221450177700
CHNDelgado00000000
TEXPalmeiro25346017719907
CHNWilkerson259010000
CHNWilliams2550012102507
CHNWilson015050000

#4:


Date: August 30, 1990
Trade: Boston sent Jeff Bagwell to Houston for Larry Andersen.
Pre Career WS: -63
Post Career WS: 338
Pre Year WS: -10
PostYearWS: -3
WSAB Pre Career: -22
WSAB Post Career: 237
WSAB Pre Yr: -6
WSAB Post Yr: -2

What do you need Jeff Bagwell for if you have Wade Boggs and you need a middle reliever?

Bagwell was a single-hitting third baseman in Double-A at the time. The Sox won the AL East by two games and Andersen pitched very well before leaving as a free agent. Bagwell became the 'Stros starting first baseman the next season, developed a bit of power, and may join Boggs in the Hall of Fame when all is said and done. I was living in Boston at the time of the trade and knew, as many did, that this was a mistake. By the way, the starting Boston first baseman was Carlos "The Q" Quintana.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BOSAndersen632410322862
HOUBagwell036200024500

#5:


Date: December 9, 1982
Trade: New York Yankees traded Fred McGriff, Dave Collins, Mike Morgan, and cash to Toronto for Dale Murray and Tom Dodd.
Pre Career WS: -63
Post Career WS: 338
Pre Year WS: -10
PostYearWS: -3
WSAB Pre Career: -22
WSAB Post Career: 237
WSAB Pre Yr: -6
WSAB Post Yr: -2

"You want some kid who's a year out of high school as a throw-in? Sure"

Yeah, Murray wasn't very effective as a long reliever in New York, but this was just a bad trade for five years. In 1987, Fred McGriff became the Blue Jays starting first baseman, and though he may always be seven dingers away from a Cooperstown plaque, he makes this one memorial. Even without McGriff, Collins remained a steady starting outfielder and Morgan was then a young starter. Murray had just pitched 111 innings in relief the year before, but even so, you can't trade this much for a middle reliever.

McGriff had just parts of two seasons in the Gulf Coast League under his belt. In his first partial season after being drafting by the Yankees, he batted .148.

The same day the Yankees signed Steve Kemp to a five-year contract. Really.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
TORCollins815201020700
NYADodd00000000
TORMcGriff034100017300
TORMorgan61310105400
NYAMurray6030327000

#6:


Date: November 29, 1971
Trade: Cincinnati sent Lee May, Tommy Helms, and Jimmy Stewart to the Astros for Jack Billingham, Ed Armbrister, Cesar Geronimo, Denis Menke, and Joe Morgan.
Pre Career WS: 152
Post Career WS: 389
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 33
WSAB Pre Career: 111
WSAB Post Career: 233
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 19

The Reds traded Lee May for who? Are they crazy?

In a deal panned by the Cincinnati press, the Reds picked up three big pieces of the Big Red Machine in Morgan, Geronimo, and Billingham. After falling from 102 wins in 1970 to just 79 in 1971, the Reds were ready to run off ten straight winning seasons with two world championships, three league championships, and five division titles.

The Reds gave up two established starting position players. May had just hit 39 home runs for the Reds. He would remain productive, but would never be a superstar. Helms had been a starting second baseman in Cincy for six years, was a rookie of the year, and had just won two straight Gold Gloves.

This was a trade that would have made Billy Beane proud.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CINArmbrister05000000
CINBillingham297701093404
CINGeronimo11030902300
HOUHelms6747014111204
HOUMay981270244643014
CINMenke1542201467404
CINMorgan15535703992227029
HOUStewart221010000

#7:


Date: January 20, 1965
Trade: Three-team deal--The White Sox get Tommy John, Tommy Agee and Johnny Romano from Cleveland and send Cam Carreon to Cleveland and a player to be named later (Fred Talbot), Jim Landis, and Mike Hershberger to the Kansas City. Also,Kansas City sent Rocky Colavito to Cleveland.
Pre Career WS: -96 (White Sox transactions only)
Post Career WS: 371
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 8
WSAB Pre Career: -22
WSAB Post Career: 231
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 15

Again Beane would be proud: Horn your way into a deal and get the players you want in the process. The Sox pick up two young Tommies as Colavito returns to Cleveland. The Sox give up quantity, a number of players that they no longer need or want, and get youthful quality.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CHAAgee01390006900
CLECarreon293020000
CLEColavito2116202812026018
KCAHershberger3348065600
CHAJohn3286012015306
KCALandis132190958000
CHARomano99370204116010
KCATalbot421070101

#8:


Date: April 21, 1966
Trade: The Cubs sent Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl to the Phillies for Ferguson, John Herrnstein and Adolfo Phillips.
Pre Career WS: -312
Post Career WS: 338
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 5
WSAB Pre Career: -185
WSAB Post Career: 215
WSAB Pre Yr: -1
WSAB Post Yr: -1

Well, there it is. The Phils trade a future Hall of Famer for two starters that were 35 and 37 years old. Jackson would be decent for three years in Philly rotation but Buhl would last just 137.1 innings and win 6 games in slightly over one year with the Phils. After Leo Durocher converted Fergie to a starter, he would win twenty games in six straight seasons starting in 1967.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
PHIBuhl14520271000
CHNHerrnstein60000000
PHIJackson1774801911429112
CHNJenkins2321012021807
CHNPhillips26701402604

#9:


Date: July 29, 1988
Trade: Baltimore gets Brady Anderson and Curt Schilling from Boston for Mike Boddicker.
Pre Career WS: -79
Post Career WS: 363
Pre Year WS: -5
PostYearWS: -7
WSAB Pre Career: -47
WSAB Post Career: 207
WSAB Pre Yr: -5
WSAB Post Yr: -4

I had just settled in at Boston when this trade went down. Mike BODdicker became Mike Bod-DECK-er in the deal, and my ears nascently introduced to a Bah-stan accent were highly offended.

Anderson had faltered earlier in the season and was back in Triple-A. Boddicker was an established starter. Boddicker would have two and one-half reliable to very good seasons in Boston. Anderson would have a pretty good career in Baltimore. Schilling again becomes a thrown-in awaiting to bloom.

The Red Sox did win a division that year and again two years later with Boddicker in the rotation.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
BALAnderson22122109300
BOSBoddicker815178472654
BALSchilling020200014000

#10:


Date: December 10, 1971
Trade: California gets Nolan Ryan, Frank Estrada, Don Rose, and Leroy Stanton from the Mets for Jim Fregosi.
Pre Career WS: -199
Post Career WS: 340
Pre Year WS: 0
PostYearWS: 26
WSAB Pre Career: -124
WSAB Post Career: 202
WSAB Pre Yr: 0
WSAB Post Yr: 20

And here's the trade, any mention of which every Met fan dreads. It should put to rest the "Quantity for Quality" argument. Fregosi was a very good player with the Angels but a) faltered with the Mets and b) would still not have been fair compensation for Ryan. Never trade a young pitcher with Ryan's natural skills even if he can't find the plate.

ToTeamPlayerPre Career WSPost Career WSPre Year WSPost Year WSWSAB Pre CareerWSAB Post CareerWSAB Pre YrWSAB Post Yr
CALEstrada00000000
NYNFregosi22338010127000
CALRose00000000
CALRyan243100243182018
CALStanton06801202002

To be continued…

A Quick One (Happy Mike)
2005-02-17 13:02
by Mike Carminati

Other entries in the Trade Series:

Mike: I’ll Take Manhattan: Baseball’s Most Lopsided Trades

Studes: The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade

The Best and Worst Teams of the Trade: Revisted

Here is a quickie aperitif while we finalize the transaction data for future multi-course meals. We have been adding in-season and interstitial Win Share metrics to add more depth, hopefully, to the analysis (and because I love trying to make update queries work in Access).

Anyway, here's a taste, and don't worry: it's wafer thin. First, here are the players who traded midseason after accumulating the greatest Win Shares totals for their original teams. And the Cliff Floyd double entry is not a typo. It is the aftereffect of his being laundered in MLB's washing machine, the then-Expos, and then presented as a gift to John Henry's Red Sox:

NameWS PreFromTeamToTeamMonthDayYear
Rickey Henderson22OAKTOR07311993
Mudcat Grant20OAKPIT09141970
Steve Buechele18TEXPIT08301991
Bill Doran18HOUCIN08301990
Willie McGee18SLNOAK08291990
Larry Doyle18NYGCHN08281916
Cliff Floyd17MONBOS07302002
Cliff Floyd17FLOMON07112002
Frank Robinson17CALCLE09121974
Doc Gessler16BOSWAS09001909
Andy Coakley16CINCHN09001908
Scott Rolen16PHISLN07292002
Denny Neagle16PITATL08281996
Rick Honeycutt16TEXLAN08191983
Johnny Grubb16CLETEX08311978
Harold Baines16CHATEX07291989
Ruben Sierra15TEXOAK08311992
Todd Zeile15FLOTEX07311998
Mark McGwire15OAKSLN07311997
Rick Reuschel15PITSFN08211987
Casey Stengel15PITPHI08001919
Glenn Wilson14PITHOU08181989
Rickey Henderson14SDNANA08131997
Roy Cullenbine14WASNYA08311942
Kevin Seitzer14MILCLE08311996
Charlie Hickman14CLEDET08071904
Randy Velarde14ANAOAK07291999
Greg Vaughn14